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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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This does seem like a weird shift on Apples part. They even featured the app in “app stories” at one point in time. I’m a user of this app and found it when I couldn’t find caffeine which I used on an older MacBook.

As an aside I’ve noticed that it’s Apples day to feature on the hn front page. Seems to be an unusual influx of bad apple press. I’m curious if it is coordinated? I’ve wondered the same about anti google/Facebook/Amazon as well. They all seem to come in waves.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

#462

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

“He who is not angry, whereas he has cause to be, sins. For unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices, it fosters negligence, and incites not only the wicked but the good to do wrong.”

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

#463
I'm sympathetic, but it's not a great argument.

Adderall®, Concerta®, Dexedrine®, Focalin®, Metadate®, Methylin®, Ritalin® are all “brand name” amphetamines.

Yup, and they're controlled substances that you can't buy without a prescription and which are only supplied in limited quantity. Your app branding is literally a kind of drug abuse - using a drug to stay awake rather than its medical use to just be normally functional.

This isn't to endorse Apple, which ought to apply its guidelines more consistently instead of ignoring or enforcing them in arbitrary manner, and which should be more transparent with communities of users rather than using its leverage against individual developers with no real process or recourse.

But when you get down to it, you are in violation of the ToS and there isn't a great moral crusade here. Rebrand and be happy.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you expect to see a box on a shelf of any retail store labeled, “Amphetamine” with a colorful picture of drugs? It’s entirely reasonable for the retail store to tell the vendor to rename the product or else it will be removed from the shelf.

No, because at a retail store the expectation is that if I see a box labeled "amphetamine" it better contain actual amphetamine. Obviously that's not acceptable, so it's not going to happen. When I buy software, I certainly don't expect to get drugs. When I buy a game called "Surgeon Simulator" I don't expect to receive actual surgeon training any more than I expect to get amphetamine after getting an app called amph…

> When I buy a game called "Surgeon Simulator" I don't expect to receive actual surgeon training

Fun fact: There are serious surgery training apps in the app stores. Surgeons, too, like to practice in a simulation rather than on real patients.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

#465

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

> My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition.

They should be brave and rebrand it to Soma, nothing flies in the new world of apples and bananas.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

#468

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

This is one of those assertions that has the unusual property of being true if you believe it, and false if you don't. Like "I think this bank is going to fail!"

Apple doesn't "hold all the cards" unless we believe it is so. The longer that belief is popular we will lose the option to fight when the stakes get higher.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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The whole world is starting to cuddle everyone to death. It’s so disgusting to see the walled gardens censoring, boycotting, deciding what is truth, interfering with ones beliefs and trying to modify them. Also everyone feels offended by something thus entitled to tell what I can and cannot say. Grow the hell up! Sticks and stones may break my bones, but facts don’t care about your feelings. Pampering society will lead to a generation of incompetent crybabies just because they can’t handle another view/perspective

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

#470

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

> They kind of have a point They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't), and it's quite likely that it's a reviewer mistake that will be overturned once the stink on social media gets big enough to reach the right person.

They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't)

It certainly references it. Definitions are fuzzy, and very much in the eye of the beholder.

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