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Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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My question was intended as a direct question to parent poster. If that's what you want your kids to be doing, then that's what you should be doing. Your kid wants to be just like you. They watch everything you do, and they will find their own way to do what they think you are doing. So, want your kids to go outside? Go outside. Want them to read? Read. Want them to practice cello? Practice cello. Want them to learn…

I did all of those things. From my experience and observation of other parents and kids, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes they want to be like you, sometimes the opposite.

There's certainly many factors involved (age is a huge one), and it's important to remember that you cannot control or change other people. You can only influence them to change. I believe that is just as true of children as any other human.

By doing the activity yourself, you expose the child to it, and they may decide to take part. Over time, they will almost certainly take interest. That doesn't mean you read a book one day and get frustrated because they are playing video games. You read a book every weekend because you want to, and over time, it influences how your child perceives best use of free time, demonstrates discipline, and showcases a non video game activity.

Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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Instagram photos and TikTok videos are certainly artwork though.

The vast majority of users on this these apps have no interest in making or sharing art, they're socially browsing other people's life events.

I don't think that's true. Most people I know on these apps are creating content just as much as they're consuming it. And the daughter in the linked article is clearly described as doing so.

Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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As a technologist and parent myself, I find the biggest problem to be the lack of fine grained parental controls. Yes, technology in of itself is not the issue, it is the highly addictive nature of certain software, but on different devices, limiting what they can/can't do is very difficult. When school started online, my 8 year old was initially really engaged, but then started getting a bit bored once she got into…

I also wonder what filters might have outsized effects on curtailing addictive behavior - for instance if you blanket silence all notifications what effect does that have? Though I’m not a parent so I don’t really know

Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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Maybe the phone is an escape? Getting home at 6:30 pm plus homework means that school-related things are a 12+ hour day. That's a pretty rough schedule for anyone. Imagine if you had a 12 hour work schedule every day. Now imagine what you would feel, if you didn't have a choice to be there. You had to be there whether you liked it or not. That's what school is like for a lot of kids. Making it extra long probably doe…

Imagine who in society doesn't need to imagine 12+ hours of work and has to be there, like it or not. What proportion, do you think? How would one firm up the estimate with hard data?

Your posts are nonsensical! Is this gpt-3?

Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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The point you're making may be that it is akin to "drugs" but not all drugs are like heroin and what you are describing is nothing like heroin cravings and withdrawal. Why not go with something that invokes less emotions in the reader like "caffeine" or "nicotine"? Because the itch to check on a notification or scroll through the news feed is surely closer to the itch for a cigarette or your vaporizer than... heroin.…

I'm wondering where it does lie on the spectrum. Do you know? Citation please. That's my point. Maybe not heroin; maybe cocaine? Personality changes, treasure wasted pursing new highs, panic and hysteria when its denied...

From my personal experiences and according to the subjective experiences of my friends I've had chatted on this topic with... certainly a closer feeling to the reward seeking behavior (itch) that can be conditioned with simultaneous application of nicotine + a monoamine oxidase inhibitor.

Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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A lot of the comments here seem to be saying that (1) kids getting addicted to phones is no different than getting addicted to TV, books, etc, and that this is just the latest iteration of a complaint parents have had for generations and (2) this person is a bad parent. I used to agree with (1), but lately I'm inclined to think that this time, it really is different. Very different. And the primary reason is that unl…

I agree with you - when a book is down, a TV is off or a console is off, it doesn't ping you and light up to gain your attention. Sure, as kids we watched a lot of TV, but when it was time to turn it off we didn't get a sound to tell us someone "Liked" your photo. As you said, these aren't bi-directional. I think the hardest thing for this parent was balancing what was right for their child (and they seemed to be con…

> when a book is down, a TV is off or a console is off, it doesn't ping you and light up to gain your attention.

There's DND (Do Not Disturb) mode for this. It's just a button click away on all phones.

Re: My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

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The analogy is for opioids, cocaine etc which are highly destructive, not recreational/medicinal drugs.

I think most of America would put TV to the "less harmful" side of marijuana use rather than comparing it to cocaine or opioids.

And they would be very, very wrong :)
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