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Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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I have to agree with you. I consider myself a geek, a fairly advanced user of software and a software developer. I have been trying different versions of Linux since the Mandrake Linux times, so about what, 20 years? I always come back to Windows, which from Windows 2000 has been getting better and better. Of course there have been sh*t moments like Windows Vista and Windows 8, but Windows 2k, XP, 7, and now 10 (ente…

I think it really comes down to what software you need, more than proficiency. Just like you, I'm an advanced user, a software developer, and Mandrake was my first serious Linux. For me though, software isn't missing on Linux, it's missing on Windows. I rarely need an office suite, and my needs are limited to simple Word/Writer documents and even simpler Excel/Calc spreadsheets, so even MS Office 97 or StarOffice 5 h…

Say it like it is, you don't know the tools, not that they are missing.

> grep and sed are missing on Windows,

cinst grep sed dngrep ...

> "replace this line in all files in this folder"

Everything file search engine is beyond anything LInux has to offer.

> I use SSH, which isn't on Windows,

cist mls-software-openssh

Besides, Open SSH is now OTB in Windows

> use KDE Plasma 5 and find it amazing, having been a fan of KDE since 3.5. I like KDE Plasma overall much more than Windows Explorer,

All GUIs everywhere are equal SHIT. Its just your preference.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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I’m so tired of reading this same comment over and over every time someone on HN dares to say they prefer Windows. As if it obviates all of their other points. Also, you turn it off once after install and that’s it.

The fact that there are ads on by default, in an OS that you PAID for, is really so laughable. There is so much cognitive dissonance in the typical windows users minds. You'd think the average person would not PAY to have LESS control over their own machines. But I guess that microsoft PR has got you all by the balls.

This might have reasons:

* As far as I remember, start menu ads were premiered by ubuntu [1]

* They might not have "bought" windows 10 at all or at least don't feel like they did: a free upgrade from 7/8, a campus license from their university, "included" in the computer they bought

Many of the advantages and disadvantages of various OS come down to personal taste and willingness to deal with them. There's no need to belittle either side.

[Dual payment systems are not new either: Ads and payments at the same time allow you to keep the cost lower (or increase your profit if you want to formulate it more cyncically).]

[1] https://www.howtogeek.com/126995/how-to-disable-the-amazon-s...

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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>As your average user, I find the user interface on windows nicer Yes, especially the ads, they're so colorful and shiny ! /s>

which ads? I do ask seriously - I'm using Win Pro and I'm not sure what you're talking about recommendations of installing Microsoft Chrome?

The same ads in search that were present on Ubuntu way before Windows ...

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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I think it really comes down to what software you need, more than proficiency. Just like you, I'm an advanced user, a software developer, and Mandrake was my first serious Linux. For me though, software isn't missing on Linux, it's missing on Windows. I rarely need an office suite, and my needs are limited to simple Word/Writer documents and even simpler Excel/Calc spreadsheets, so even MS Office 97 or StarOffice 5 h…

Agree with you. It is a matter of what software do you need. That said, for my use case, I have never found a software that I need on Windows that is only available on Linux. The opposite happens to me a lot.

> That said, for my use case, I have never found a software that I need on Windows that is only available on Linux.

For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that most Linux software is open source and can be run on other platforms even if mainly meant for Linux. Git is a prime example, developed as a Linux program - in fact developed by Linus Torvalds specifically for the kernel - but it runs on Windows with a few quirks. LaTeX is a Linux-first project but you can also use it on Windows, etc.

This mostly doesn't happen in the opposite direction because of closed, proprietary software. Could Photoshop be ported to run on Linux, and with how much effort? We do not know.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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I have been using both Linux and Windows for the past 25 years having both Linux and Windows machine as my primary machine for varying lengths of time and for various reasons.

I currently use Linux as my primary machine on both my PC where I do remote work and on my Thinkpad which is serving as backup and mobile workspace.

The Windows is on a company-issued laptop that I do not use at all and in a VM which is dedicated solely for carrying the invasive stuff that monitors my every keystroke and executed application that my company thinks is good idea to have on my private machine to protect company interests. Hopefully, they never learn to figure out they are running this in a VM.

When I use Windows as my desktop I feel powerless. If something breaks, there is no recourse other than trying stuff I read on the Internet. On Linux I can automate pretty much everything and pretty much everything is open to me and the only thing that limits me is how much time I am comfortable spending on solving my issue.

I hate that Windows does things on my own machine that I am not able to stop or audit. Should I resign myself to giving away my privacy to another company? I think not.

I hate that I am absolutely unable to create an environment on Windows that will still work, without maintenance, in months or years. I do electronics design and embedded development in my free time and I just can't be spending time figuring out what changed in my environment every time I go back to modify code for some gadget I did a year or five ago. On Linux, I just create a VM for every single project, set up my toolchain, turn off any automated updates and then back up the entire image to unfreeze it when I need it.

I find it funny, that Linux had an app store with huge selection of free, powerful application, ready for immediate installation and use, and Microsoft required decades and Apple and Google to finally figure it out and still fail to make it usable. I like the fact that I can bring in seconds a piece of software to be immediately available to me without having to find the installation package, worry about custody of the source of the package or that it might be doing some malicious thing to my PC, worry about how it will pollute and slow down my machine even if it is installed, and so on. I do work on my PC, maintaining it is not my full time job.

I still work on Debian Unstable that I installed ca 2001 which I successfully maintained over the years. The first PC that it worked on had Duron 600 on it (does anybody still remember it?) and 20GB of disk space which was quite a lot at the time. If everything goes well it will see another AMD CPU next year when it becames available next year. I just can't imagine doing the same with Windows. All Windows desktops I had required full re-install after couple of years of use.

It was true in the past that you had to use Windows to use any serious tools. That is no longer the case, most of the time. You can even play games (Steam works though not all games are designed to play on Linux). The tools that don't work on Linux are no longer enough to force me to misery of working on a Windows desktop as my primary one.

Granted, Linux is not fun either. The Gnome is buggy as hell, has trouble with 2 4k monitors. The Nvidia drivers aren't nearly as stable as on Windows and Chrome experiences issues every time I wake up my machine from suspend. The machine sometimes locks and I did not have time to debug it and I just need to press reboot button. Still, beats Windows.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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I just moved to Linux as my primary OS; been fucking great. 11/10 Overall, everything seems to "just work" at least as well as on MacOS and is not quite (for me) as endlessly frustrating as Windows. Gaming has also been effortless and honestly just the most delightful surprise about the whole thing. I can write code AND play games... on the same machine... and it's running Linux?! I would've lost that bet ten years a…

Personally I'm not a fan of gnome, but If you have a MacOs background Its understandable to prefer it on top of other Desktop-Environments. Do not forget to give a try to other D.E's thou, its always good to check new stuff, I always find delightful stuff effortlessly (: For a long time I tried to make my Linux desktop look similar to my old windows machine, until recently I understood that I was compromising my productivity, so I started to look for new looks for my desktop, its like shopping at a free mall haha, I love it.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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In 2018 I ended up calling both Apple and Microsoft for phone support within a few months of each other and, to my surprise, got excellent support from both of them. The Apple issues turned out to require an NvRAM/SMC reset to fix a weird performance issue. The Apple support person was very polite, helpful and knowledgeable. The Microsoft issue was I’d bought a laptop which came with an Office trial, but wanted to en…

> The things that annoy me about Linux are the lack of system upgrade options, you basically have to reinstall from scratch every time I'm using Fedora as my main OS (on the laptop since 2011, on the desktop since 2015) and here it's easy to upgrade to the next release, I've been doing it for years (with only 1 full reinstall at some point): https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-u...

Similarly, I've upgraded an Ubuntu install every 6 months for the last 8 years, and it never gave an issue.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. But I still run Windows because the only really good video editor on Linux (Davinci Resolve) is really unstable there with the hardware I have, the USB audio interface I use has all sorts of issues on Linux and not all games run well on Linux. Basically what it boils down to is I've been one of those folks who builds their computers from parts for 20+ years with the goal…

Lightworks is also a really nice commercial editor that works on Linux. The free version supports 720p output. It is not as fully featured as Davinci Resolve, but then it also requires much more modest system resources.

Yep, I tried that one (along with pretty much every editor). None of them really meshed well with what I was used to doing with Camtasia (on Windows) or Resolve. They were all too limiting[0] in one way or another for the types of videos I create.

Resolve would be perfect if it worked with my set up. I hope one day it gets there.

[0]: I don't make cinema style movies. Mainly 1080p screencasts. So things like nice looking titles, simple animations, zooming / panning, adding overlays of various shapes and sizes, blurs, etc. are really important to me. Nothing I tried on Linux really comes close to how easy it is to do that stuff with Camtasia and make it look nice. Resolve is pretty close tho, after you put in enough time to build up your own custom libraries.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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It was unexpected. But could you feel it without experiencing? I've used open source OS for a decade. It has changed my mind. I've never downloaded software from site. I trust community, not vendors. I use just one non open source application (slack) and I do not trust them, I'd rather run it in a sandbox. My system comes with a framework to download, build, install any package with just a few commands: $ yay -G foo…

Maybe I'm kinda skewed because I started with Windows, but I don't feel difference between downloading e.g Firefox on Windows and typing `apt-get install nginx` on Linux. Maybe because it requires "huge shittons" of effort to try to controle the software, and yet, at the end of the day I still have to trust somebody (OS, Drivers, ISP, Firmware/Hardware, Govt)

I just don't expect every developer to be an expert at packaging their app. There's a thousand things to think of, and they might do an unreasonable hack just to get away with distribution.

If you get your packages from a single source, you mostly have to trust that source (lower attack surface), and can be assured they will meet a minimum quality level.

Example oopses from valve (but really, most vendors have theirs):

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671

https://amonitoring.ru/article/steamclient-0day/

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