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Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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> Why in the world would you get a completely different answer to a very simple question based solely on which device answers your question?

Because the phone has location services enabled and the pod does not? Just a guess but they are certainly operating under different contexts.

Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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At some point about a year ago I noticed that I could no longer ask my Google Home devices "what's the weather?". I'd just get a generic "I don't understand" response. But more specific queries such as "What's the weather in Seattle?" would work. After a couple of weeks of this, I somehow got the idea that it was related to the devices' configured locations. And sure enough, telling the Home that I lived in the next…

But if you had not worked at Google at the time, there’s basically zero chance you could’ve got anyone at the company to do anything about it.

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Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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I get this problem all the time and I live in "the right" London so it is not just a "nearest London" thing. It is not just digital assistants, but so many other things like Google maps, e-commerce sites, address auto-completes etc seem to assume that I want the North American one with a population of 300k that no one knows about, not the one that everyone has heard of with a population of 9 million. I've always just…

For a lot of products, US sales are just worth so much more than sales from anywhere else, that it is reasonably common to not care much about the rest of the world. I’ve worked for a few companies that started out with a heavy focus on localization, but eventually realized it was just a massive waste of money.

I mean the problem being described has nothing to do with US sales though. I'm sure if people ask for the time in London, 99% of they mean London UK irrespective of whether they are US based.

Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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I've never been able to keep 12 AM vs 12 PM straight in my head. If I have to put something on my calendar or set an alarm for that time, I always use 11:59 AM or PM. Is there a mnemonic or trick for remembering?

My mnemonic is literally "it's the wrong one". 12PM is morning, 12AM is afternoon.

No, it's not. 12PM is midday (12:00), and 12AM is midnight (00:00).

Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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To be fair, there is a tendency among Americans full stop (with the honourable exception of the good denizens of this and other likeminded sites) to assume that everyone on the internet is American.

I don't think this is an American thing as much as it is a 'country with large population' thing. Internet users all around the world do tend to frequent sites based on regional preferences, and the human brain is exceptionally prone to identifying patterns. I'm sure if I were to hang out on Weibo or VK I'd find a bunch of people assuming everyone was Chinese or Russian.

In my view it's the language. English is so common everywhere that young people around the world are pretty good at it (including me), so they get onto the internet from a young age and start consuming English (mostly US) websites, social media, and movies etc, which further strengthens the grip the US has.

Meanwhile, you'd struggle to find an American, or any one from the Anglosphere really (maybe with the exception of Canada) who speaks Greek, French, Arabic, Vietnamese, etc.

Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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The best are that have a settings page where they try to give an example. But use a day-of-month =< 12. Like your example. It couldn't have hurt to use and example of "22/05/2020"; then it is still infuriating, but clear.

I so much just prefer Apr-05 2020. Clear to all.

While clear to all [english speakers] it still has US bias. Outside of the US it's more common to write 05 Apr 2020

Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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In the recent (~5y) past, I've asked Google Maps, from within London, a route to Charing Cross Station and been given the one in Glasgow.

"Charing Cross (Glasgow)" Station in Glasgow is the true Charing Cross. I can only applaud Google Maps there. You were looking for the vastly inferior "London Charing Cross"

What makes your comment fun is that I can almost hear it in the angry Scottish accent of a Mike Meyers character. “If it isn’t Scottish, it’s shite!”

Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?

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> If the person asking the question lives in Ohio, they may actually be talking about London OH (or Dublin OH). I would seriously doubt this assumption. Why on earth should someone living in a state specifically ask for the local time in a different location within that same state? On the contrary, this context information would make it much more likely that the person actually meant "London, England". Except if ther…

> Why on earth Just use your imagination a bit. Maybe I live in state X at location Y while my parents live at location Z in the same state, about 250 miles away from me, maybe there’s a serious storm where I live and I wonder if I need to check on my elderly parents?

But you'd still be in the same time zone, no? For different queries, like the one you mentioned, that might be reasonable, but asking for the time in London means the assistant should infer England's time zone, if you're in Ohio.
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