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3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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Germany lost 2 World Wars and today it has greater GDP than UK by $1 trillion. It doesn't matter who is hit harder it matters whose economy is more efficient and has more innovations.

Nothing will ever sway people like you from neoliberal rhetoric, huh?

This is not productive commentary. Looks like his numbers are true, thus his statement is worth something.

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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And this is just the start. While I think the US response to Corona was slower than the response in my country I feel the US is the only country that's seriously discussing economic repercussions and debating the medical experts. In EU (at least in my country) it's doctors running things and we are in "stop the pandemic at all cost". Everyone is in panic due to Italy situation. But doctors are only trained to see the…

Unfortunately yes. Even if one wants to keep the quarantine at all costs, it should be a political decision, not only medical, after weighing everything. In Italy, where I'm in my third week being shut in, experts and doctors are being quoted tiredlessly by the news: the problem is that they're doing their job (which is good!) however they do not realize the impact of their suggested measures. Not their fault by any…

The fact is this is a good pandemic to practice on. We are very very lucky, to even be debating the economy right now.

If this virus was far deadlier and affected young people, I think the tone on this very site would change in a heartbeat.

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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Somewhere there is an architect saying "I told you so!" I can almost guarantee the requirement was to handle several hundred requests per day, an architect pointed out if we get deluged then we won't be able to handle it, so maybe they were able to get them to allow for one or two thousand requests per day. Now of course we don't know what the architecture of this system is and what the deltas in cost would have been…

This reminds me of an old story about an engineer who took initiative and automated the accounts receivable process at his company, now they get paid 25% faster! He shows his boss and gets a promotion. He decides to do it again, this time with accounts payable, and is promptly fired.

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Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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And this is just the start. While I think the US response to Corona was slower than the response in my country I feel the US is the only country that's seriously discussing economic repercussions and debating the medical experts. In EU (at least in my country) it's doctors running things and we are in "stop the pandemic at all cost". Everyone is in panic due to Italy situation. But doctors are only trained to see the…

And mental health too. How many new Alcoholics will this create? How many suicides?

It's interesting that NOW people are concerned with this impact from the economy, yet when people became alcoholics from getting fired when the economy was good, no one seems to care.

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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You could have only thought that was a scathing retort if your political ideas are entirely based on the formal manipulation of words and aesthetics.

It was meant more as a "there is no real response to a contentless statement like this" comment, though I admit people don't seem to be taking it that way.

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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Not Democrats as a whole. Nancy Pelosi and one or two other congress people in particular. As I understand it from various sources spanning the political spectrum, both the Republicans and Democrats that were in Washington DC had productive bipartisan talks over the weekend and had largely hashed out a bill that both sides agreed on. Then Nancy Pelosi flew back from California and injected several additional things i…

What were the provisions?

Stuff like:

- 35MM for the JFK center in DC

- 300MM for migration and refugee assistance

- no voter id

- early voting

- emissions stuff regarding airline industry.

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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Nothing will ever sway people like you from neoliberal rhetoric, huh?

Nothing in the grandparent comment is particularly neoliberal; now, if it stated that neoliberal policy assured (or even made more likely) the kind of economic resilience that it suggests is what matters, that would be different, but as it is it is compatible with the criticism of neoliberalism that is common from the center-left to the far left (though each position in this range also has many more criticisms of neo…

"efficiency" and "innovation" are neoliberal buzzwords. They are the very same buzzwords that were used to justify the cuts to our supplies and offshoring of our supply chains that led in part to this crisis.

It is absurd on its face to summarize Germany's ascendancy to "efficiency" and "innovation" when, you know, complicated geopolitics is a thing. It is literally fluffy propaganda.

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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State and local governments are doing a good job in many locales. Assuming more Governors don't follow the jackwagon leading Mississippi and override local efforts, the situation should improve despite the lack of leadership and execution at the federal level.

What's going on in Mississippi?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronav...

Re: 3.28M file for U.S. jobless benefits

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You would have to implement it in a way that redistributed wealth, i.e. increase marginal tax rates. The goal is to make sure everyone is housed, fed, and educated. One option is to just give them housing, food, and education. Another is to give people money and let them choose. Yet another is to loan the money and to put them in debt forever.

The goal is to make sure everyone is housed, fed, and educated. One option is to just give them housing, food, and education. Another is to give people money and let them choose. Yet another is to loan the money and to put them in debt forever. It's a noble goal. What about exercising the option of personal responsibility and agency of choice? (D) none of the above.

What about it? From what I can tell, people would rather choose to live in countries where there is some social contract regarding a minimum quality of life rather than Somalia.
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