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Sure but the body can't actually use phytoestrogen the same way so it's harmless. If you want to now what's making men docile and feminine look towards pollution of the air and water supplies.

> If you want to know what's making men docile and feminine look towards pollution of the air and water supplies. But not the food supplies? Just air and water?

No food too for sure, air and water is just what came to mind since it's much more ubiquitous.

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The MMR vaccine does not give full immunity(the reason booster shots exist), immigrants can enter the country while carrying the disease, and sometimes live virus vaccines like MMR can leave the people who get them contagious. The only ways to have zero cases of any disease in the country are to either eradicate it globally (like small pox), or to eradicate it nationally and prevent cross border transmission (like po…

I’m flagging this for the xenophobic/racist stereotype that immigrants are a major source of MMR. Recent data on measles, the disease currently in the news, show that rates in Central America are comparable to or even lower than in the US: https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/bur...

Nothing in the post stated that immigrants are a major source of MMR, only that stopping cross border transmission is a requirement for effective eradication.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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do you think Louis Farrakhan is inherently dangerous or something?

Black supremacy should be treated the same as white supremacy. There is nothing wrong with pride in your race, but when it comes at the expense of others, there needs to be a line drawn.

I would argue that there kind of is something inherently wrong with externalizing pride in your race beyond a point, even if it's not belittling another group.

It's arbitrary. It's a grouping that was largely invented to divide people. Even if people the same color as you did amazing things, that doesn't mean anything about you. Variance within groups is enormous. Variance between groups is comparatively small.

You should take pride in things that you actually deserve, that you earned. Even if people that share a genetic and cultural background with you are amazing, it's fundamentally the same problem as being outwardly proud of how successful your parents are. Sure, privately being proud that your dad is a great self-made CEO is okay, but making it a part of your identity or projecting that outwards as though that reflects your personal worth is insane and disfunctional.

I get that most people talking about pride in their race are trying to counter a racist narrative that makes people feel bad about their race, and I completely support that, but I really don't think it should go further than helping everyone feel comfortable and accepted in their skin.

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> How many people do you think were interested in old school conspiracy theories like Area 51 [1] or the protocols of the elders of zion [2]? Henry ford printed half a million copies of the latter! I think most of the people were interested in it for entertainment, just like people are interested in horoscopes for entertainment. Or would you argue that all these newspapers that had horoscopes in them pushed fringe co…

How's this for starters? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos#Violence_aga...

I think this is good pointing to specific examples and incidents.

What worries me is that these bans are so vague. If you say someone is dangerous or needs to be removed from a platform, you really should back that up with the why. Getting very specific as to the reasons people are dangerous.

If we don't do this you're going to get conspiracy theorists looking at bans as some big plot against their ideology.

I like Tim Pool's take on this. There is a clear anti conservative bias in the rules these platforms enforce, that's fine just acknowledge it.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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I don't agree with this at all. If they want to put a big warning on it, contain the posts, etc. that's fine, but banning is not cool. One person's radical fascist is another person's ardent hero. Facebook should support freedom of speech, not freedom from speech.

The only thing that the constitutional right to freedom of speech guarantees is that the government cannot arrest you for what you say. It doesn’t give you the right to continue using someone’s platform as a megaphone if they decide you’re an asshole. Being banned from Facebook doesn’t mean that these people no longer have the right or ability to spread their message. They can use another platform, or make (or host!)…

My apologies, perhaps I was not clear in my previous statement. I recognize that this is a private corporation, hence why I said in my last sentence that Facebook should support freedom of speech, not freedom from speech, which I meant as on their platform.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Saying racist stuff constantly but playing it off as "ironic" and wearing a suit doesn't make it less racist. Good, they should have kicked these guys off years ago.

Any examples of Milo making a racist remark? Afaik his criticism is mainly towards certain cultures. Not races.

So that whole pedophilia thing is ok?

"Some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are, and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable and sort of a rock where they can’t speak to their parents."

-Milo Yiannopoulos

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Horoscropes don't have a victim. Stuff like elders of zion portrays jewish people as villains, to real and tangible consequences (did you know anti-semitic hate crimes are up around 300% of the last two years?).

How about white supremacy? Islamism? Communism? Westboro Baptist church? The more radical parts of Black Lives Matter? I don't think Facebook needs to host people who's political opinions they don't share but it can be tricky the draw the line.

Why not, just allow everything that is legal?

There is no need to be the arbiter of what is right for the world.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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> How many people do you think were interested in old school conspiracy theories like Area 51 [1] or the protocols of the elders of zion [2]? Henry ford printed half a million copies of the latter! I think most of the people were interested in it for entertainment, just like people are interested in horoscopes for entertainment. Or would you argue that all these newspapers that had horoscopes in them pushed fringe co…

both of them pretty clearly are on our radar for their political speech (feminism is cancer, “free speech”, soros conspiracies, etc). Given what we know about social media and violence, entertainment value should be a secondary concern.

There is nothing negative about free speech, it is the bedrock of democracy.

Re: Facebook Bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and Others

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Gday Platforms that censor speech List :-

* Facebook

* Twitter

* Google & Youtube

* TUMBLR

* Pateron

* Stripe

* Paypal

* Twitch

* Spotify

* Apple

* Sony

* pin interest

* LinkedIn

* Mailchimp

* Wordpress

* mastodon

* azure

* Mastercard

* Godaddy

* MEDIUM

* Shopify

* Cloudflare

* pusher

* WIKI

* Reddit

* teespring

* Slack

* coinbase

* GOFUNDME

* VISA

* Square

* Bitpay

* ROKU

* Netflix

* Indiegogo

* Disqus

* VIMEO

Regards, Charliebrowau

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