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Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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I'm surprised at the lack of support (hacker news) for Safari. It's a fantastic browser, made by people who have a track record of not being evil with data. I know that might seem like a big statement, but in the face of Google I will happily trust Apple.

A few years ago they were considered the new IE when it came to html5 compat (which was lagging behind other browsers). I'm not sure what the status is now.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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It is funny to think that company that makes money by showing you ads based on information that it harvests by various mechanisms would let you browse the web without watching ads.

Interesting changes to Chrome seem to have become more often. A recent one was the forced login policy. https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2018/09/23/why-im-l...

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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I'm surprised at the lack of support (hacker news) for Safari. It's a fantastic browser, made by people who have a track record of not being evil with data. I know that might seem like a big statement, but in the face of Google I will happily trust Apple.

I love safari, but of late unlock Origin has stopped working, which means i constantly switch to firefox when the ad's get nauseating.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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post #460

I'm surprised at the lack of support (hacker news) for Safari. It's a fantastic browser, made by people who have a track record of not being evil with data. I know that might seem like a big statement, but in the face of Google I will happily trust Apple.

I love safari, but of late unBlock Origin has stopped working, which means i constantly switch to firefox when the ad's get nauseating.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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> and I don't like Firefox's UI/UX Maybe I'm not as critical about the UI, but I have both browsers open at the same time so I took a second to compare them. Both browsers have a row of tabs. Below that is a second row. The left most set of buttons is navigation (back, forward, refresh, etc), then the address bar, then on the very right of the row is a set of buttons for extensions, settings, etc. The remaining porti…

On the surface they're quite similar, I agree. I won't pretend that Firefox has some whole separate UX decision process that's ruining it for me. It is, like all decisions between similar products, a matter of my own pet nit. I dislike Firefox's zooming behavior. I have to zoom into websites because I have poor vision. Chrome's zoom behavior has been extremely natural for me, and easy to adjust to. When I used Firefo…

I agree 100% on Firefox's terrible zooming implementation. It's the reason I started using Chrome.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Don't threaten, don't wait, do it now.

I hear you. But I'm not here to take a stand. I want to go online, get some stuff done, then go be with my kids.

Other browsers won't prevent you from any of these things. Some browsers are on par with Chrome when it comes to speed and extensibility (plugins and such).

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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But the design document only mentions retaining the old API for features that aren't possible with the new API, such as onAuthRequired. So it would still cripple uBlock

I really like the point the uBlock maintainer's make: "Extensions act on behalf of users, they add capabilities to a user agent , and deprecating the blocking ability of the webRequest API will essentially decrease the level of user agency in Chromium, to the benefit of web sites which obviously would be happy to have the last word in what resources their pages can fetch/execute/render."

I'm just waiting for the time until websites won't load at all unless you have hardware DRM turned on that will take all of your control away.

>Extensions act on behalf of users, they add capabilities to a user agent, and deprecating the blocking ability of the webRequest API will essentially decrease the level of user agency in Chromium

This is off-topic, but I felt the same way about most data privacy problems. It was my own browser that was giving out the information and I would still like to see better control over it by default. Data privacy laws are simply a bandaid that don't help at all against malicious actors.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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1Blocker for iOS can block everything you mentioned and doesn’t get access to your browsing activity to do it.

according to https://1blocker.com/faq/ to have full functionality it gets access to your browsing activity.

That’s actually not possible on iOS. The content blocking framework only allows a third party ad blocker to submit a JSON file to the system and the rules are processed by Safari.

If you are referring to the quote below, that applies to the Mac version. The iOS version uses a share sheet extension that uses an out of process extension where you have to explicitly share the link you want to block.

Safari warns me that 1Blocker Menu has access to webpage content, why? We use this permission in order to get information about current tab's domain when you select whitelist option. Sadly, there's no technical way to request just this functionality from the system, so we have to request full access to webpage content (which may include your sensitive information). However, we understand how important this data is and only use the domain. We do not transmit or process your data in any other way. Feel free to disable 1Blocker Menu if you don't like this (you'll still be able to block content).

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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> and I don't like Firefox's UI/UX Maybe I'm not as critical about the UI, but I have both browsers open at the same time so I took a second to compare them. Both browsers have a row of tabs. Below that is a second row. The left most set of buttons is navigation (back, forward, refresh, etc), then the address bar, then on the very right of the row is a set of buttons for extensions, settings, etc. The remaining porti…

Your reply resounded with me a little. I agree with the person you replied to, I don't like the UI/UX. I think it's the 'second level' of UI stuff - menu's behind buttons, settings pages, things like that. I think Chrome does a good job balancing 'advanced user' and 'basic user' stuff. Firefox feels a little too 'dumbed down' for me. I'm honestly trying hard to put a fine point on it, but it a lot of it just feels 'o…

I was going to add a stipulation about the about:settings type stuff being different and what not, but chose not to originally. My thinking was how often are you in settings that it's a problem? I'm not a browser power user, so I only go in to the settings usually after reading something here. I set it, and forget it. Maybe 30 seconds?

As far as dev stuff, I'm really only familiar with Firefox after Firebug was rolled into the browser so that it is similar to Chrome with a Cmd-Option-i key press. I hear people stating that the dev tools are still very different. All I really ever use it for is seeing how the DOM is changing in the inspector, looking for output in the console, and see what files are doing (404,200,500, params/response, and CSS values type of stuff. Both browsers do what I need in a way that I can't tell the difference.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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> I've got nothing to hide. I'm sure you believe that's true, but I suggest that your belief is based on a certain confidence that the people pouring through your data are fundamentally acting in good, or at worse neutral faith. However, if this data ever gets into the hands of someone acting in bad faith, even the most innocent behaviour can be weaponized against you. Let's say, for example, that you are wrongly sus…

That's not an unreasonable point, but with that alarmist logic why are you then not living off the grid?

Because the only 2 possible options is to hand over all your data or live off the grid
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