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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by Rinzler89 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 3:58 PM UTC

shubb wrote: post #341

I feel like something went a bit wierd with my wages compared so some people here. Not level - that's about geography and company and other factors. But in progression. I have never asked for or recieved a pay rise, although I have been offered retention money. That said, it might just be the industry, colleagues talked about similar numbers. 2008 - £24k - Junior Electronic Engineer (C++/embeded)- Large engineering c…

If I may ask, how did you move from embedded to data processing? I'm interested in doing a similar move since the market for embedded is really poor in Europe and shows no signs of getting better.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by Rinzler89 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 3:58 PM UTC

roel_v wrote: post #441

jacknews wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even 8 years ago, £20k ($26k ish) seems extremely low for a developer in a "rich" western nation. Is embedded development really that poorly paid? I'm quite interested in it myself, but not for that kind of money.

"Is embedded development really that poorly paid?" At least in Belgium and the Netherlands it is, yes. I've interviewed a few times for roles like that, and they were always poorly paid and very depressing looking (like one guy beaming 'this will be your workspace!', pointing to an ancient pc on the edge of a lab table with a chair with holes in it. I think since the electronics guys didn't have chairs, that was the…

Do you have any idea why embedded got so poorly paid?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by tata2020 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 3:59 PM UTC

sures wrote: post #103

I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

Can u tell me which company offers such package i am really surprise as to wat role and company and wat skills ll get such package.

can u share any way to connect with you?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by tata2020 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 3:59 PM UTC

blrdev356 wrote: post #400

sures wrote: post #103

I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

Here is my salary history for comparison (Bangalore). Every time I dream of hitting $100k gross, my government prints boatload of money devaluing rupee and bringing my $ salary down. I have kinda given up on the 100k milestone at this point: 2007 - 0 YOE - 350000 INR ( 4600 USD) - Software Engineer - American company (indian office) 2010 - 3 YOE - 900000 INR ( 12000 USD) - Senior Software Engineer - Small indian comp…

Can u tell me which company offers such package i am really surprise as to wat role and company and wat skills ll get such package.

can u share any way to connect with you?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by bowlich » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 4:01 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #296

These threads always invite the outliers (i.e. those who want to humble brag). Here's mine outside Washington/California/Silicon Valley/NYC: - $40K: 2010-2013, "DevOps" at small startup. No ownership/shares. - $45-72K: 2014-Current, Programmer (various job titles) working for state's education department Even management here only make $90K capping out around $115K~. But cost of living is low. These threads never have…

This thread's making me feel much better about my starting salary of $35k back in 2011. It always seemed to bug me, the nagging feeling that I had way under billed myself for the first two years of my career (looking at all the big salaries everyone was always claiming).

My salary's pretty much followed the same progression that other's have posted for outside of the high-cost-of-living hubs.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by fwiwsalary » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 4:01 PM UTC

Burner account, all in USD

  1995 - $10/hr web developer at NYC area digital agency, paid high school intern
  1996 - $15/hr - raise
  1997 - $20/hr - raise
  1999 - $70k salary - web developer at NYC digital agency, sys admin
  2001 - $110k salary - raise, promoted to VP engineering
  -- in here started doing a lot of freelance work on the side, eventually doubling my income with salary + freelance work
  2005 - $250k/yr+ in contract / consulting work - many clients
  2006 - $325k/yr + $50k bonus + equity as CTO at startup
  2007 - $340/yr + $75k bonus - raise
  2008 - Exited above at buyout incl sale of equity
  2008 - $200k/yr in contract / consulting work, 2 main clients - partial year
  2009 - $350k/yr in contract / consulting work, 2 main clients
  -- came to realize that all the hustle was not worth the dough and shifted to a balanced work/life --
  2010 - $180k/yr salary, VP engineering at NY media company
  2011 - $140k/yr salary + sick bonus and benefits at NY finance firm
  2014 - $175k/yr salary + variable bonus, CTO remote work at a digital agency
  2015 - $180k/yr - raise

I worked my ass off for that 2005-2009 period, risking a lot in work-life balance. I now enjoy a very nice and even-keeled work-life balance and lifestyle with my family doing what I love.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by swat535 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 4:03 PM UTC

bambamb wrote: post #409

It amazes me that someone as intelligent as this guy can say something asinine as “as a white man I know I can negotiate without backlash.” Not only is there no evidence to support this, he seems completely oblivious to the fact that he is not a representative white man at all. He has written widely used books on JavaScript! Don’t you think THAT might be the reason he can negotiate without backlash rather than his ra…

Please do not derail yet another discussion by posting a flaming comment. Not everything has to be related to sex, gender, equality and so on.

I wholeheartedly agree that they are critical issues, but that being said, there is a time and place and those are important issues but really..

This is not it.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by friedman23 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 4:05 PM UTC

fma wrote: post #218

Everyone is posting salaries... How about hours worked. I sometimes feel like a frog in a pot and am in the office for 45 hours a normal week and at times 50. Once in a while a few hours of production support on nights and weekends. The only time I worked 40 hours was government... I realize it could also be the nature of the application. Looks like the author is mainly on UI while my application, and at my previous…

I work in a unicorn startup and never work more than 45 hours a week. They also give us one day a week to work remotely but I never take it because I prefer the free food.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by phendrenad2 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 4:05 PM UTC

salaryburner wrote: post #115

Burner account. Software engineer, C, C++, Assembler, Java, LUA, python, perl, bash, objc, swift, COBOL, Pascal, EJB, Linux, Windows, Mac, BSD. 1996: 28k 1998: 40k 2000: 65k 2003: 70k 2004: 72k 2009: Startup founder in San Francisco, 40k 2011: Startup founter same company: 85k 2014: Startup founder same company, 115k 2016: Freelancer, effectively 50k due to lack of contracts 2018: bbigco, 90k Dunno what I'm doing wro…

Baseless speculatiin on my part, but maybe your work history doesn't have a clearly-defined specialization? COBOL and assembler are at opposite ends of the software world, for instance.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Post by CanadaThrow87 » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 4:07 PM UTC

grecy wrote: post #359

kspaans wrote: post #333

I studied at UWaterloo and had many internships from 2007-2010 for which I forget the pay I was making, but I remember all of my full-time amounts (I started with around 2 years of work experience): 2012-2013: RIM/Blackberry in Waterloo, Canada: CAD 70,000, no bonus or stock, 15 days of vacation or so, 40h per week, software developer 2014-2016: YourGolfTravel in London, UK: GBP 41,000 first year, GBP 43,000 second y…

> 2017-present: software developer & architect at TELUS digital in Toronto, Canada, for not less than I was paid in the US Huh, it's good to know Telcos in Canada will pay Software People well. I worked in Software for a wholly owned subsidiary of Bell and the IT staff were paid a tiny fraction of your US salary.

Burner accnt.

I worked in software in the media arm of Rogers (Toronto downtown HQ) and was also paid about half of what OP is getting at Telus...

No bonus. 2% increase a year pending a good review.