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Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by HatchedLake721 »

Verdex_3 wrote: post #357
pdeuchler wrote: post #127

Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…

We as an industry? Look friend. If I lose my job, you aren't going to do anything to augment my lack of income. You're not going to do anything to provide health insurance. And you're not going to do anything to help me find new employment. There is no "We". Here's an idea. If this topic is something that you feel is important, then perhaps you can set aside half your income to a general fund to help provide benefits…

Exactly this. Decline a 3x paying job, there’s another 1000 developers behind in line. You take a loss on personal income, Facebook carries on being Facebook, and nothing will change, except having less money in your bank account.

That’s not how you change the world.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by toss1 »

basch wrote: post #425
aonwoajdndj wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are all in the world of opinions here. Share your opinion or criticize his. Comments like this are not helping us make progress on these issues.

Maybe I've just bought into the image Mark wants to give off, but I believe facebook's naivety in its actions to largely result from Mark's optimism and lack of skepticism. He comes off as a person with hope and belief that things are good and positive. He doesnt come off as a cynical, worst case scenario type person. Time and time again, something happens, he writes that "it isnt so bad" and THEN evidence comes out…

>>Mark cant have an opinion

NONSENSE.

Zuckerberg only thinks he can't, and that is not itself an opinion.

These platforms focus on exploiting emotion and seeking 'engagement' to maximize time on platform and ads viewed/interacted with.

This creates a strong bias towards false information, since it appears to be more novel/surprising/engaging. Even without active corrupt injection of lies, conspiracy theories, dezinformatsiya, provokatsiya, etc., this will bend away from the truth.

They need to focus strongly on filtering for facts and truth, and yes, that means suppressing all of the above.

Zuck thinks he's not in the business of publishing, despite corralling all the biggest publishes onto his platform, adn providing advertising to the likes of Russian trolls and Cambridge Analytica.

He needs to recognize what he is actually doing and take editorial responsibility for his platform.

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Post by confounded »

jkchu wrote: post #443
hobs wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like a vast networked trove of everyone's information is doing the opposite of "preserving our democracy from attacks" - its actively enabling it. Minimizing the damage of collecting that information is maybe not directly evil, but helping kick the can down the road to the point where facebook is so deeply networked in our society its unremoveable doesnt seem like a high horse to be riding on.

your line of reasoning makes it sound like it would be simple for everyone in the world to stop using Facebook or some similar social media platform. I see nothing wrong with trying to improve something that is already well ingrained into human society.

Is it Facebook the executive team and business model that’s ingrained, or is it the general concept of sharing photos and links, and sending messages?

Or, have the former earned a monopoly on the latter/our-species?

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Post by KyeRussell »

jazoom wrote: post #408
iMuzz wrote: post #318

Here's the banner that they put up on peoples newsfeeds: https://imgur.com/G7sBbwX Nowhere on that banner does Facebook make it clear that there was recently a severe security issue that may have resulted in the loss of personal user information (Making it much less likely for the user to actually click 'Learn More'). It's misleading to title this with just "An Important Security Update" and make it seem like they've…

They've been showing me that banner for a while. In fact, they stopped showing it to me about a week ago. Are your sure it's related?

This is 100% the banner I have received. The call to action directs you to this page:

https://www.facebook.com/help/2687943754764396?ref=comms

Which is the issue at hand.

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Post by phaedryx »

Xyik wrote: post #281

Its sad that everytime there is a post about Facebook the comments are extremely toxic and negative, and don't really even discuss the article itself. I would argue that 80% of all tech companies are doing close to 0 in making the world a 'better place'.

I'll just leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook

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Post by ChristianBundy »

dschuler wrote: post #436
basch wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I've just bought into the image Mark wants to give off, but I believe facebook's naivety in its actions to largely result from Mark's optimism and lack of skepticism. He comes off as a person with hope and belief that things are good and positive. He doesnt come off as a cynical, worst case scenario type person. Time and time again, something happens, he writes that "it isnt so bad" and THEN evidence comes out…

I thought you were referring to another post with "Mark". It's ok to call him Mr. Zuckerberg, since most of us don't know him personally.

I had no trouble understanding that "Mark" meant "Mark Zuckerberg" given the thread about Facebook and the comment branch about him. I don't think "Mr. Zuckerberg" is warranted on HN.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by martimarkov »

eanzenberg wrote: post #380
martimarkov wrote: post #337

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I find it hard to believe that only FB has on office in that country that offers the $60k you are referring to. I work in London and there are a lot of companies that will give close to FB salary if you are a good developer. And yes there are companies that are not as corrupt as FB, Google, Amazon. So I'm wondering (out of curiosity as I can't personally think of any) where in Europe is that happening?

London isn't even EU

Kinda is buddy. Surpassingly the UK is part of the EU and London being the capital of the UK is part of it.

Also EU != Europe

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by hvass »

I was logged out of my account, but reviewing logs of devices that are using/have used my account in the past I don't see anything suspicious. What is the likelihood that the account was breached and accessed without triggering any of those systems? Is it plausible to speculate that it was possible for accounts to have been accessed without users receiving emails from Facebook?
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