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I doubt the dual dishwasher strategy works, as it’s unlikely that the clean dishwasher will get completely emptied and you’ll end up with both washers with dishes you want but sometimes mixed with dirty dishes.
guess you could just clean the clean dishes again
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You can also just get two washing machines. Load all the dirties into one then run it and as you use them load them into the other. Bam. Clean dishes and no putting them away.
I elaborated on this in a different comment, but I think there could be dishwashers divided in two independent halves that worked as you say, without requiring double the space.
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Are the Chinese knock-offs any good? I just looked up the price of a Roomba. $600 AUD to start for the shittiest model :(
I have a "Eufy robovac" I bought off Amazon and it works pretty great if you can accept a bunch of limitations. It has no app and setting up any sort of non-trivial schedule using the simple remote that comes with it is very hard. It never manages to find its way back to the charging station, so you have to find it and carry it back yourself each time. It has no 'memory' so it has to learn the space it's in each time…
I don't think any of the others, including the 4x priced Roomba are any better at navigating my house. The sensors don't seem to work well on black floors, and there are places you will have to block so you don't have it getting stuck often. Once you've figured those two things out in your house, it's push button vacuuming with the $200 Eufy.
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#464Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…
Like I said - almost.
All that would be needed to make this actually work would be to own a second dishwasher, placed next to the first. So instead of putting the dishes into the sink, you put them into the second dishwasher; when it is full, you turn it on, then use it as the source for clean dishes. Ping-pong between the two.
The only other problem is the fact that this system wouldn't work for a large family (more than 2 people and place settings), or for food prep (all the dishes, plus pots and pans, etc) - unless both dishwashers were much larger, or the dishwasher were redesigned as a part of the storage cabinet system, etc.
In other words, the entire kitchen would almost have to be designed around the dishwasher. This is ultimately the solution to the problem, though. In industrial automation, you don't usually design the machines and processes to work like a human would, but rather optimize the processes for the machines, and the machines for the processes, to the point where a human can't even do the tasks any longer with the available machines, because they were designed for other machines to use.
Kitchens are designed around humans; you'd have to re-design the kitchen to be more machine-centric in the utensil/plate storage and cleaning process in order for your "dish robot" to become a reality (in which you would be working inside the "dish robot" you would call a "kitchen"). I really think you could do #1 (and likely #2 as well) - but it would require a huge redesign into what a "kitchen" (and "laundry room") is and how it works (and how humans interact with it) vs how these rooms (and machines within) currently are designed.
As such, I don't expect that such systems would be easy to build, inexpensive, or very flexible to usage. But they would or could be made highly automated.
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Note that this is almost certainly less efficient in terms of time, water use and energy use, than using a modern dishwasher. The other benefit we find of using a dishwasher in a family is that the dishwasher produces a consistent and good result as compared to a 8-12 year old trying to hand-wash, and kids can be trained to competently unload things if you store plates and glasses "low". So the aggregate effort for p…
If your kids are rubbish at washing up, which miraculously results in their being exempted from this thankless task, you may be witnessing what Scott Adams identifies as "strategic incompetence" :-) I suspect my wife of the same tactic, as the thought of her greasy half-washed efforts on the draining board always gets me to volunteer to do the dishes every night.
We just don't have that much hand-washing to do. They are still rubbish at the task even when made to do it.
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> Your car will go to the wrong place because it failed to account for a leap second, thus breaking gps. I do get the implication you're going for, but GPS actually ignores leap seconds for this reason. The time scale on the GPS system was fixed when it was deployed, and is 18 seconds ahead of UTC because it does not account for leap seconds. Sometimes we design horrid systems that are harder to use than analog count…
wrong. The difference between GPS and UTC is not fixed. (you might have confused it with the difference between TAI-10 and GPS that is constant) Here's how to get UTC time from GPS time using Python https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33415475/how-to-get-curr...
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I saw it done with a stacked pair of dishwasher drawers (e.g.: https://www.remodelista.com/posts/appliances-dishwasher-draw... ) in a small apartment in Switzerland recently, with "clean" and "dirty" magnets that got swapped around -- there was no other dish storage. Pretty great. My other favorite is the Italian dish drainer (a few examples here: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/759138080911631519 ) -- basically the ca…
The drying cabinet is actually a Finnish invention [1] (although apparently preceded by a US patent that never took off). It was popular in Scandinavia for a while, and you still come across homes from the 50-60s that have them, but they're no longer popular now that most people have automatic dishwashers. My family has a mountain cabin in Norway, built in the 1950s with no dishwasher, that have these, and they're ve…
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wrong. The difference between GPS and UTC is not fixed. (you might have confused it with the difference between TAI-10 and GPS that is constant) Here's how to get UTC time from GPS time using Python https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33415475/how-to-get-curr...
I wonder why the fact is downvoted? It is easy to check that the statement is true, just click the link, run the code, see the results, read the authoritative sources linked there for additional information.
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I wonder why the fact is downvoted? It is easy to check that the statement is true, just click the link, run the code, see the results, read the authoritative sources linked there for additional information.
Because the GPS time scale is fixed. UTC drifts by leap seconds, GPS ignores them. I'm not sure what the point of the stackoverflow link is, because it certainly says as much itself. Yes, I understand that additional leap seconds are added as time goes on, which makes the difference between GPS and UTC larger as the years go by. But this doesn't mean that the GPS time scale isn't fixed.