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Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone

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Post by Scea91 » Wed, Feb 15, 2017, 10:33 AM UTC

blubb-fish wrote: post #247

swalsh wrote: post #108

Another terrifying part of this, is due to the nature of networks, when one of your "friends" becomes compromised, your private message do too. This goes way past national security, and 7 countries. I have former coworkers from Syria, Iran, and Iraq. They're great people, and are great programmers. I friended them on Facebook many years ago, and now when one of them is caught at a border it's not just their private m…

first of all stop using FB for communication

The problem is that you usually have to use what your circle uses too. Sadly, in my circle it is FB.

Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone

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Post by biafra » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 12:48 PM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #234

biafra wrote: post #210

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Only if you're accused of a crime, right? Which is not the case here. They just want to search your data. Although if you're not a citizen they will probably not let you enter the country.

> Only if you're accused of a crime, right? Not really. As soon as you know there's an investigation against you, any action to purposely destroy relevant evidence can be used against you, even if there was no formal crime charge yet. For companies, they usually get special letter that instructs them to preserve evidence due to investigation ongoing or lawsuit pending. It is also common in civil cases, where there's…

Yeah. But I cannot change these policies. I am not even a US citizen. So I have to wipe all my devices clean before crossing the border. Or risk confiscation. Because there is no way (except torture) they will get any of my passwords.

I wonder if it would help if an equal amount of US citizens have to hand over their passwords at EU borders. Maybe that would help as a wake up call?

Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone

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Post by biafra » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 12:54 PM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #428

justin wrote: post #392

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>Why didn't Obama do anything about it? Responding to the above, Obama did do something: he presided over the first extrajudicial assassination of a US citizen by drone strike.

One that pledged allegiance to a foreign "state" that engages in violence? I fail to see the problem

Because it was missing due process?

Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone

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Post by npiazza83 » Wed, Feb 22, 2017, 3:18 AM UTC

Honest question here... can you plead the 5th amendment to avoid civil liability? I don't know if revealing company trade secrets is an actual crime (even if you work for NASA) but working for almost any company this would be breach of contract and grounds for termination...