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The woes of Windows 10

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Re: The woes of Windows 10

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> Chromebooks are now outselling MacBooks in the crucial education market, where long-term preferences tend to be established. Apple has historically held a dominant position in the education market, so how does one square the "long-term preferences tend to be established" portion of that sentence with the 8% marketshare MacOS commands?

Unfortunately, Chromebooks will struggle with the engineering crowd, where software like ANSYS, Matlab, AutoCAD, etc. are required.

Personally I'd be quite happy if the market for PC's bifurcated into thin clients on one side and powerful workstations on the other. The user experience for professionals has been compromised by the need to support 'normal' users on both Windows and OS/X.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Well that was weird. tldr; Windows has 92% OS share. Windows 10 only accounts for 24% (maybe). Windows 10 is so, so secure. How to make people upgrade? Windows 10 new update will have advertising. Other OS's sure look good now. I feel like this section of the Economist doesn't get much editorial review.

> Windows 10 new update will have advertising. And I don't see anybody blinks here on HN about that. Why? https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/85341/microsoft-... "So Windows 10 pops-up little advertising windows—sorry, tips—on the Edge icon in the taskbar, or in the Action Center UI, or in the Settings interface where you can change your defaults, because it really, really, really doesn’t want you to exercise…

This was the final straw for me, as soon as I started seeing ads (on the pro version) I decided to switch.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Profit. How else is Microsoft (or any other company) going to make money off software no one needs or wants? Other than rehashing the same old product and pushing it onto users for more money, more surveillance, or both, they have nothing of value to sell on the software side. Even if they did have something of value to sell, over 90% of the people have already bought their product. Gotta keep the cash rolling in so…

I don't quite follow. You seem to be saying that Microsoft make changes just to justify the release of a new OS version. But they announced quite a while ago that they would never release a new major version. There will never be a Windows 11, you will never pay to upgrade Windows to the new version again. They adopted the macOS platform, where the OS sticks to a single version and gets an incremental annual update (m…

Right now Win 10 Home is $119.99. If Microsoft actually said what you claim, they're lying. Either way, they're doing it for the money. Whether that money comes from the actual software, hardware, ads, user data, or some other way, it's the reason why Microsoft will continue to push their software onto people, including people that don't want it. In fact, with the addition of ads and user tracking, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the actual dollar cost of the software in favor of data cost a la Chrome OS and other Google products. And it still wouldn't change anything. Profit would still be the reason for them adding new features and forcing people to upgrade.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Developers won't do that for a good while if adoption rates continue at their current level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_... Oh, also, Dx12 does offer performance benefits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_12#DirectX_12

Is that a list of games that only support DX12, or a list of games that support DX12 and possibly some other API as well?

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_... Oh, also, Dx12 does offer performance benefits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_12#DirectX_12

Is that a list of games that only support DX12, or a list of games that support DX12 and possibly some other API as well?

It's both.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Yes, when you trick and manipulate users into upgrading, it results in a substantial short-term boost in market share.

I don't think moving people from one version of Windows to another counts as an increase in market share. And since they gave away a free upgrade for the life of the device, at a considerable cost in terms of servers and bandwidth, it wasn't profiteering either.

And since they gave away a free upgrade for the life of the device, at a considerable cost in terms of servers and bandwidth, it wasn't profiteering either.

Pro tip: when a for-profit company does something that appears to be uncharacteristically altruistic...

...Aw, heck, you know what? Never mind. Enjoy the garden.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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post #464

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Is that a list of games that only support DX12, or a list of games that support DX12 and possibly some other API as well?

It's both.

Okay, so how about a list of games that only support DX12, since that's what's being discussed here?

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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It's both.

Okay, so how about a list of games that only support DX12, since that's what's being discussed here?

The link lists both games that only support DX12 and games that support DX12 and something else.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I recently installed both Windows 7 (32 bit) and Windows 10 (32 bit) on a 1 GB memory machine. Memory pressure from 10 was lower than 7.

Most likely from the compressed pages. I recently bought a 2GB Ideapad to use as a toss around machine. I wish it had come with 32-bit Win10 but MS's stupid rules require 64-bit on any processor capable of using it.

I don't think you would have any problem re-installing using the 32-bit version yourself.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I recently installed both Windows 7 (32 bit) and Windows 10 (32 bit) on a 1 GB memory machine. Memory pressure from 10 was lower than 7.

Most likely from the compressed pages. I recently bought a 2GB Ideapad to use as a toss around machine. I wish it had come with 32-bit Win10 but MS's stupid rules require 64-bit on any processor capable of using it.

> I recently bought a 2GB Ideapad to use as a toss around machine. I wish it had come with 32-bit Win10 but MS's stupid rules require 64-bit on any processor capable of using it.

Is this correct? There's a bunch of low end machines that have 64 bit processors but not much ram, and thus were installed with 32 bit Windows 10.

EG: http://imgur.com/a/yukLR

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