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A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by hayd »

School-Cotton wrote: post #285
esw wrote: post #272

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>he pays $27 per month for his health insurance through his employer, and it's a nice plan. This is really an outlier. The US average for employee premiums is $104/month for individuals and $392/month for families.

That might be an outlier relative to the whole population, but is it one relative to good tech jobs? I pay $0 for health insurance, for example, and what I get is perfectly good.

Plans differ wildly in copay/oom etc. So $0 isn't what you end up paying if you actually need to use your health plan.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by magic_beans »

bobwaycott wrote: post #365
general_ai wrote: post #322

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Regarding language: you'll surprise yourself. You will have passable French within 6 months or less, and excellent French within 2 years or less, but during the initial 6 months your life will be hell. Your pronunciation will never be as good as that of the natives, though, but if your grammar is all right, no one but complete assholes will mind.

Your pronunciation can most certainly become native. The easiest path there is to immediately abandon all attempts to speak the language as if it is your own, and focus on the rhythm and intonation of the language. Also, pay attention to the shape of your mouth when speaking. I almost feel as if I have an entirely different voice when I speak French than I do in English. Focus on the sound and rhythm of the language…

You are absolutely correct -- French speakers DO use their mouths differently than English speakers. Once I learned this in my Linguistics courses, my accent improved immeasurably.

The mouth is much more pursed, there are more sibilants, sounds either come from the very back of the throat or the very tip of the tongue.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by [deleted] »

jjawssd wrote: post #333
ddebernardy wrote: post #327

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And high rents, but then they're also among the highest earners. It's not like you can easily find a $200k+/year software dev job in Montana. edit: s/mo/year :D

You can easily find $2,400,000 / year software development jobs in California?

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Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by scott_karana »

frwo wrote: post #172

French salaries are much lower and taxes are extremely high for high income earners. There's more than one tax on your income! There's the regular "impôt" but also the "contribution solidarité" which is legally considered "not a tax" but cost you a percentage of your income. And a "taxe d'habitation" too (which is proportional to your rent rather than income). There's quite a bit of misrepresentation and wordplay all…

> France has been in a state of emergency ("état d'urgence") since november 2015, having been prolonged many times.

...and the "temporary" PATRIOT act has (mainly) kept being renewed since 2001, plus all that nice extrajudicial surveillance and gag orders.

Fearmongering seems like the regular state of governance in the first world, at this point: it's not exclusive to France.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by matt4077 »

otoburb wrote: post #459
pmalynin wrote: post #448

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Canadian here, as far as I know you can't pay into the CPP if you're not working in Canada (I have a friend who is in the exactly that situation). But, that said you can put a lot of money into TFSAs and RRSPs.

>> Canadian here, as far as I know you can't pay into the CPP if you're not working in Canada (I have a friend who is in the exactly that situation) I came to the same conclusion unfortunately. Would gladly pay to contribute to CPP on the assumption that I'll (probably) be retiring back home. Unsure how it is in France, but in Canada (for now), I believe future CPP payouts are based on contributions made today (i.e.…

> I believe future CPP payouts are based on contributions made today. This is unlike the US social system where current payouts are based on contributions made with today's generation of workers.

I think you're conflating the basis for calculating the payouts you will receive, and the sources of payouts. I. e. most government pension schemes are use today's payments for today's pensioners, but will still give you a higher pension if you paid more/longer into the system.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by wott »

adventured wrote: post #418
wott wrote: post #388

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> As opposed to Sweden, Germany, or the UK, which have all produced superior results the last few decades with different approaches from that of France. What???

Sweden, Germany and the UK have approached economic growth far differently than what France has, and have produced superior results to that of France. The question was, why would the "French fraternal" system be worthy of being copied given its weak results? See for example: Sweden's economic deregulation and lowering of taxes, which prompted their significant economic boom. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0803/int…

You say pure bullshit, as in all your messages in this thread. Almost all European countries share the same principles about education and universities, and their funding, that's what is was about.

You obviously don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about, but you don't care, you keep talking and talking, the only thing that matters it to end with "Murica is better than anything else".

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by discardorama »

rubber_duck wrote: post #359
renaudg wrote: post #330

Raw salary comparisons miss the point : you can't really compare pre-tax salaries between countries with such a completely different taxation and benefits structure. The take home pay certainly is much, much lower in France than in the US, but it comes with access to top-notch free healthcare, free university, pension contributions, 5-7 weeks paid leave and generous unemployment insurance amongst other things. It all…

>but it comes with access to top-notch free healthcare Does it cover stuff like cosmetic dermatology, full dental plan (implants) ? I don't live in France, I lived in different EU countries and every time I needed something the "free health care" meant I had to pay participation fee and wait 6 months walking around appointments and ended up going private clinic. I basically got 0 value out it, considering I'm young a…

> I basically got 0 value out it, considering I'm young and healthy I would not have to pay much for insurance, you're mostly footing the bill for the pensioners.

And when you are a pensioner, who will foot your bill?

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Post by xienze »

manarth wrote: post #419
xienze wrote: post #271

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It's. Not. Free. It's why the salary numbers are what they are.

It's. Not. Free. "Free at the point of delivery". Do you pay to use the highway, or do you drive on the highway for free? If you can use a service without handing over money for the use of that service, it's reasonable to call it "free".

> Do you pay to use the highway

Yes, because part of my paycheck goes towards that. And every time I fill up. You seem to fall into the trap of "if I don't hand over money at the same time as I make use of something, it's free." Politicians love to exploit this phenomenon for maximum effect.

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