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Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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That's the exact same complaint I have about Windows.

Sadly, that problem is as old as Windows and hasn't really gotten better. For a company that's specialized on software, that's a pretty abysmal bottom line.

I would strongly disagree. Windows works pretty flawlessly nearly all the time these days. My only real complaint with it at this point is that so little of my dev stuff runs natively. If that weren't the case, I'd probably switch over.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Unfortunately, Linux lacks in the creative market. There's no way this can change soon without support from big players, like, for example, Adobe.

From what I've seen it's been getting much better. Linux has very powerful tools for media creation/editing now: Blender, Krita, Darktable, Natron are some quality apps that I'm aware of.

The problem is that they still pale compared to the Windows/Mac applications.

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They retracted that and apologized. It's unreasonable to just hold this over their heads, and in general use it to dismiss their entire project, which they have been working on for half a decade, mostly with no salary, because of one badly phrased sentence from one contributor which was then retracted. I also think if you read the rest of what they're saying, it's probably is true that we will only get Linux GUIs whi…

My problem with their project funding argument is that I'm not an investor. An investor has lots of money, and so is more willing to accumulate risks for the payoff of creating a stable enterprise. It's not rational for me as a consumer to fund such an unsure bet, especially when changing an operating system has lots of friction. I assume that the proposed talent of an individual investor is in the ability to sieve g…

Your argument would make sense if it weren't pay what you like, with the option to pay zero, and the default option being less than the price of a sandwich.

You mention that investors have lots of money and are therefore able to take on risks. I suspect that nearly everyone who would consider downloading this operating system has a lot of money relative to the $5 suggested donation, and certainly relative to the $1 you could choose instead. And if you truly don't have that, then you can do $0 instead.

You can make the risk to yourself arbitrarily low, selecting whatever you think fits your profile of cost vs potential reward. That is their rational model.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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My biggest gripe with OS X right now is that Safari doesn't play nice with some website when it comes to dragging pictures and pasting them in from the clipboard.

I also can't stand the lack of plugin support on Safari. Is uBlock origin or similar available on that platform yet?

uBlock is available for Safari, but uBlock Origin is not.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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What I find really laughable is when people say macOS Sierra or the new MBP2016 is underwhelming, and then they start talking about something as inferior as Elementary OS and laptops that doesn’t even have a useable touchpad.

You can get laptops with extremely good hardware at a better price than the MBP. For example, Dell's XPS series is the best example. Fantastic screen, fantastic trackpad, good build quality, and equivalent specs despite being a model year behind. In terms of hardware, the MBP is pretty bad value. The OSes are miles behind though.

I've had several Dell laptops over the years (4 from ~2003-2012), and while things may have changed in the last 4 years, I would be very surprised to see even a halfway decent trackpad, build quality, and battery life from Dell. I also have the HP Spectre x360 (from Microsoft Build 2015), which was considered to be one of the best Windows laptops available at the time, and its trackpad is one of the most awful devices I've ever had to use. The rest of the laptop is great (screen, keyboard, build quality, even battery), but if I hadn't gotten the laptop for free, I would've returned it for the trackpad alone.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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I mean, sure - the design is pretty, but OSX has been terrible for me quality wise. I know what you mean about pretty, but currently i'm feeling like i need to pick between pretty (OSX) and stable (Linux). Worse yet, is if i pick a stable variety of Linux, it's likely to not be pretty. The pretty Linux OSs (in my experience) tend to be at least as unstable as OSX. Ugh. (Note: I upgraded to Sierra, crash or have weird…

Weird. I've been on MacBookPro since 2011 and have not experienced any crashes so far. What do you do to crash it?

Clearly something, but no idea what. I only use a small number of apps (iterm2, neovim, chrome, spotify, etc). Spend most of my day in iterm2, and avoid using new programs because i prefer cli programs.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

I have been a Linux user for a long time ( ArchLinux with Xfce ). Recently, I switched jobs and my employer issued me with a Mac. I am having the same problem : the fucking OS. Why do I need to press multiple buttons to see how many applications I have open ? Why does command + tab cycle through every open application ? Why does it not limit itself to the applications in the current space ? What are spaces for anyway ? Why does clicking on an already open application's icon in the dock take me to a random window for the application ? Is there some logic to it ? Is it random ? I think I understand why so many people wax on about tiling window managers now, they have never seen proper window managers. Also why do I have to press Command + whatever when there is a perfectly functional control key on the keyboard ? If I am remoted into a Windows machine now I have to remember to press Control + whatever and revert back to Command + Whatever when I am back on my Mac. Also don't even get me started on the docker networking issues.

But it would be unfair for me to blame Apple's OS for most of these faults.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

Bravo sir, I could not have said it better myself. I purchased a brand new XPS15 ubuntu 14.04 and it was a disaster - The battery lasted about three hours, the $300 graphics card did not function at all because of poor drivers (graphics switching is still theoretical on even user friendly linux os' because of dark age xserver) I had to spend two weeks to get the wifi working by messing around with conf files The conc…

Did the machine come with Ubuntu out of the box, or did you install it yourself? That is one of the reasons my company went with System76. They ship with Ubuntu installed and will provide support, drivers for all the hardware, etc. The OryxPro is a nice desktop replacement.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

Speak for yourself. Linux is a perfectly viable option for non-lazy people, who don't complain about everything. And Windows 10 is excellent too if you don't care about privacy. And it's Ubuntu not Ubuttnu.

>> a sneering fuck you directed at not just me, but everybody remotely like me.

You overpaid 8k for a machine so why should Apple care? You are clearly going to buy their next product.

>>But we're mostly all gonna buy the new shitty MacBook Hipster, or gut it out with our old ones

According to Netmarketshare stats at least 2% have abandoned OSX since May 2016.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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> Mac developers don't want to just get the job done. They want to get the job done while winning an Apple Design Award. Well, thats kind of a narcissistic statement. How many people develop for Windows? How many for Linux? How many for Mac? oh. I try to make my software as beautiful as I can, and keep a simple and usable UX. There are developers who don't care about guidelines, or design. That's not a platform fault…

> "There are developers who don't care about guidelines, or design. That's not a platform fault, is just that there are developers who just want the job done, even in a ugly fashion." And that is the biggest problem in software world, that's why our computers are full of half-baked, ugly, poor documented and uncompatible programs - because someone "just wanted to get job done".

That someone usually is the product manager.
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