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iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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The best 3D touch feature is the trackpad keyboard. It's also very not discoverable (who thinks to force touch the keyboard?) Having said that, 3D touch is far from the only improvement on the 6S. If it didn't have 3D touch I'd still recommend the extra $100 to get MUCH better internals (processor, cameras, touch ID sensor) and a stronger body too.

I git exited about the trackpad keyboard when I heard about it, but the cursor always jumps a character or two when the lift my finger.

After force touching to enable trackpad mode, ease back and press only lightly as you move around. Then the cursor won't jump when you release.

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It's a bad report across the board... AAPL YOY (year over year, not quarter) : iphone down 18% ipad down 19.5% mac down 9% revs down 13.5% eps down 18.5%

> It's a bad report across the board... Just to put this into perspective: > quarterly net income of $10.5 billion

Good point.

"which is about a 12% decline in year-over-year quarterly revenue. It’s officially Apple’s first quarterly decline since 2003."

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I always do the OS installs through iTunes so it pretty much gets wiped every time.

Maybe that's the issue - I don't do OS updates on iOS devices, so my 5s is still on iOS 7.1 - and it's still blazing fast after 18 months of use. My suspicion is that the iOSes getting slower with every release is a planned obsolescence strategy.

I don't buy it. Each revision of the OS adds functionality and expands the code base, that's plenty enough to explain the issue. Long term, progressively bogging down the OS deliberately will just make it look unnecessarily slower compared to Android. That's a much bigger risk than any possible effect getting people to upgrade.

Also there are ways to disable some of the newer features and reclaim some responsiveness, such as General->Accessibility->Reduce Motion.

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Out of curiosity, in what way do you feel TouchID makes your phone more secure than just a password? Someone could steal a glass you've touched along with your phone and unlock it with a bit of effort. From a technical standpoint, the only thing TouchID adds in terms of security is preventing someone from peering over your shoulder at a passcode as you enter it, but a would-be thief is more probably far more concerne…

> Out of curiosity, in what way do you feel TouchID makes your phone more secure than just a password? Someone could steal a glass you've touched along with your phone and unlock it with a bit of effort. Well, quite a lot more effort. I don't want my data/photos/etc to fell pray to a phone thief -- or a guy that finds the phone after I dropped in a cafe. And Touch ID does that fine. The "fingerprint on glass" scenari…

It's actually less effort, though. It's basically impossible at this point to brute force an iPhone password, and even if you use TouchID a thief could theoretically still try and break in using the backup numeric password. Also it's been shown that depending on how you use your phone, usable fingerprints can be lifted right off the screen (you touch it all the time after all), so someone who is after your data doesn't even need a separate fingerprint source. To me, TouchID is a convenience feature, not a security one.

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So now we found out how long Apple was able to ride Steve Job's coat tails.

Because under Steve Jobs they would have continued to increase revenue and profit by the same margins every year until they owned the entire planet, and then continued to grow by colonizing Mars with Elon Musk. Or something.

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Personally I'm not interested in the watch, but the iPad Pro is far from me-too. The display on the 9.7" is outstanding, the pencil is top notch, it's light, powerful, sounds great. At this point Apple is just knocking it out of the park in tablets on every front. Nobody else makes anything that comes close.

Maybe (Surface etc), but in any case these marvelous products are just not selling enough. They are nowhere near being an alternative anchor product should the iPhone tank for good; they are just another branch of the iPhone world, in the way MacBooks and iMacs are branches of the classic Mac product line. The iPhone was a completely post-Mac product; now Apple needs a post-iPhone product, and they don't seem to know…

It depends what you mean by 'enough'. Enough to maintain continuous rapid growth forever? No. Enough to be sustainable profitable businesses in the long term? I'd say that was plenty.

I think tablets have reached market maturity surprisingly fast. At some point it has to become more about profitability, ecosystem strength and market dominance than growth.

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That sounds like emulating for the sake of emulating. I'm sure even you would hate it if you actually saw it in production. Typing on keyboard is shitty as it is. By making it force touch, it will be much slower to finish a sentence. When people use physical keyboards their fingers are by default resting on the keys. When most users type on mobile, they're not. It's easier to NOT rest fingers on the keys than resting…

And that is where the vibrate comes in. the keyboard is of a known layout, and by marking by feel when you move from one key to the next you know where you are. This allows the keyboard to be operated without looking, much like how most people use a ordinary keyboard today once they are past the hunt-and-peck stage. A big reason for touch screens being a problem in many situations is that you have to actually look at…

> This allows the keyboard to be operated without looking, much like how most people use a ordinary keyboard today once they are past the hunt-and-peck stage.

'Most people'? I must have had really bad luck in a number of financial/tech companies, as a disturbing majority don't touch type.

Note, my experience is with people aged 30-50. It's possible that this doesn't apply to millennials, but they certainly aren't the majority still.

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3D Force Touch was one of those features I feel would have only caught on, if it was one of the original iPhone features. Tacking it on later, with little to no support in apps, makes it forgetware. I actually really like the functionality, and I completely forget it exists. There needs to be some type of small indicator reminder that a button HAS 3D touch.

The best 3D touch feature is the trackpad keyboard. It's also very not discoverable (who thinks to force touch the keyboard?) Having said that, 3D touch is far from the only improvement on the 6S. If it didn't have 3D touch I'd still recommend the extra $100 to get MUCH better internals (processor, cameras, touch ID sensor) and a stronger body too.

> Having said that, 3D touch is far from the only improvement on the 6S.

However the internals are largely the same as the iPhone SE

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Apple still have $233,000,000,000 in the bank. More than the federal reserve, more than Google, Microsoft, and Facebook combined. They could buy their way out of this I am pretty sure.

Buy their way out of it? How? They obviously don't have anything profitable to invest their excess cash in, since it is either sitting in the bank or going to stock buybacks or dividend increases.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-hints-at-big-acquisit...
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