The average size of Web pages is now the average size of a Doom install

Post by sethrin » Mon, Apr 25, 2016, 6:35 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #445

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Unix isn't for end users, it's for developers to build on top of to give things to end users. Linux on desktop already happened years and years ago if you work for a tech company, and that's probably about as far as it needs to go. http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptab... This is Steve Yegge's understanding of the Lisp community, and I should clarify that I don't think the XML monstrosities we…

Thanks for the link to that post. I'd also advise to read through its comment though - some people there, especially Pascal Costanza, point out quite a lot of problems that basically reduce it to ranting of a person who doesn't understand the language and the culture he's writing about ;). Also, the influx of enterprise patterns into JavaScript is quite a recent phenomenon - personally, I blame Google (who, for a rea…

Post by sethrin » Mon, Apr 25, 2016, 10:14 PM UTC

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TeMPOraL wrote: post #445

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Thanks for the link to that post. I'd also advise to read through its comment though - some people there, especially Pascal Costanza, point out quite a lot of problems that basically reduce it to ranting of a person who doesn't understand the language and the culture he's writing about ;). Also, the influx of enterprise patterns into JavaScript is quite a recent phenomenon - personally, I blame Google (who, for a rea…

What part of UHH do you think is not obsolete? I dislike many aspects of Unix, but it seems like 90% of the book is either wrong, meaningless invective, or obsolete. It's hard to view it as of more than historical value -- which is a shame, because Unix is far from perfect.

Post by Khaine » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 8:21 AM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #406

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"You believe that the web is such a broken application platform that it is possible to convince enough vendors and people to get behind a better solution. However, I...have been around long enough to know that will never happen." "That's not to say that the web might not some be supplanted by something better..." Whomever wrote the first paragraph of your comment should get in touch with the person who wrote the seco…

The irony is I understand your qualitative opinion of the web, and I generally agree with it. What I believe makes you unable to see my argument is an inability to separate technical excellence from the market dynamics that govern adoption. Declaring the web "not even a development environment" is just absolutist rhetoric that can in no way further the conversation. If you define "development environment" as a tradit…

Post by seangrogg » Wed, Apr 27, 2016, 4:18 PM UTC

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var obj = {...} // native JavaScript Object.keys(obj).forEach(function(key){ console.log('obj.', key, ' = ', obj[key]) }) // Lodash _.forEach(obj, function(value, key) { console.log('obj.', key, ' = ', value) }) Object.keys(obj) creates an array that contains the keys of the object, which makes it pretty trivial to call filter, map, reduce, etc. And getting the value from an object's key is also pretty straightforwar…

Ruby: obj.each{|k,v| ...} Sure you can do it in JS, but calling Object.keys then forEach (in whose closure you'll still have to reference obj[key] by the way) still doesn't feel optimal.