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This entire article is about immigrant visas.

No it’s about B-1 and B-2 visas: > The State Department and Department of Homeland Security are reviewing all B-1 business and B-2 tourist visas, he said. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary... (“B-1 Temporary Business Visitor”)

Suspicious given the xenophobic nationalist government the US has in place. "But we're just following the rules!" innocent look

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Not trying to make a political point at all and perhaps a controversial take. But, it’s specifically and maybe implicitly by design. Meaning they made this way precisely so you have to reapply so they can change their mind or block you out later. Nothing about getting a visa is permanent and you’re fully at risk when you move here with that type of status. If you evaluate the situation that’s always been the case.

Lots of countries have temporary worker status. The requirement to leave the country to re-up it appears to be a distinctively American thing.

It's definitely not. I know Japan and Korea had a similar process when I was living there, and I was under the impression that most places operate this way. Your visa grants you right to temporarily stay in the country, and if you don't have a visa you have no right to be there. Sometimes there's a bridging visa to cover the gap, but a country isn't under any obligation to provide one.

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Do you think China should open their borders for everyone no questions asked? Kick out no one, even overstayed visas? If not, are you willing to equate the current Chinese regime’s quality to that of your perceived quality of the US?

I see you trying to kick a field goal all the way from the school parking lot, good luck with that.

It's not popular to mention but the US is the most immigrated to country on the planet, almost 4x the next country.

But really, immigrating to any country is quite complex. It's far from "just fill out a form" for pretty much every western country.

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> Letting the entirety of the world into your country without stops is cultural suicide. The natives of the Americas, Australia, and the many nations previously colonized by European countries, know that better than any descendants of the colonizers. Did they get to have any say?

Yes that is a great example. You certainly don't want what happened to them happening to you.

Yeah that's a great example of hypocrisy

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the current admin are working hard to destroy the U.S as if they're foreign agents. not only are they making it hard & unbearable for families of US citizens & PR holders to be together. while at the same time - discouraging talent to come to the US at a crucial time when talent is at a premium due to A.I development. last the backwards energy policy of banning renewable energy.

"Superpower Suicide" in the words of historian Timothy Snyder. Also encompasses the self-destruction of military power, alliances, and beneficial trade.

It looks more like homicide to me. Almost exactly like being pushed out the window of a skyscraper. But who would do such a thing?

Re: U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Not trying to make a political point at all and perhaps a controversial take. But, it’s specifically and maybe implicitly by design. Meaning they made this way precisely so you have to reapply so they can change their mind or block you out later. Nothing about getting a visa is permanent and you’re fully at risk when you move here with that type of status. If you evaluate the situation that’s always been the case.

The cruelty is the point.

I mean, anyone who is still defending this administration isn't even trying to have a conversation in good faith.

I have a Republican friend who appreciates the Supreme Court Justices, and then suddenly has zero clue about any news story involving the administration, and shrugs off the war. This despite meticulously following Benghazi hearings when it was someone he wanted to dislike. He would rather Trump be Romney, but he's not going to do anything about it whatsoever.

I blame myself for teasing my Italian friend in college over Silvio Berlusconi, and now I've found myself in the same position :(

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I think there are a lot of inhumane things happening around the world right now to label this inconvenient, at best. We need better leadership through higher voter participation and an informed electorate to stop these inhumane and inconvenient policies.

Speak for yourself, I voted for exactly these policies.

Thank you for posting. I'm being sincere.

I think it is helpful to remind folk that these policies are not universally hated. Indeed a majority of voters voted specifically for them, and they were explicitly laid out.

This is democracy in action. The majority (of those who care enough at all) get to rule over the minority (and the apathetic). Obviously not all actions will be universally loved, but no govt action can ever be universally loved.

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Our birthrate has been below replacement for several years now. We need immigrants to mitigate that.

I don't get this argument. We skip over fixing the birthrate and instead rely on immigration. There's a whole bunch of reasons people give for why we can't fix it like costs, jobs, housing, etc. Ok, so then first wouldn't immigrants also have the same problem once they get here or do they have a way of bypassing our low birthrate somehow but then we were told we can't bypass it, it exists because of the costs, jobs.…

> We skip over fixing the birthrate

You're assuming the birthrate can be "fixed". Japan has an even worse demographic problem. They've tried "fixing" it and nothing much works. Similar for South Korea. Japan would certainly benefit from opening up to more immigration. Countries that can attract more immigration are going to benefit economically as the birthrates continue to decline globally. Why not be attractive to immigrants instead of wanting to repel them?

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Just how many people are being born through birth tourism and end up claiming more in welfare than they pay in taxes?

Many don't bother coming back but the ones the do are almost always very expensive.

How many, how expensive, and how much is this offset by others who come back and pay taxes?

I have seen a lot of freakouts about birth tourism since the recent SCOTUS ruling and I haven’t seen anyone give even the most cursory overview of the actual scale of the supposed problem. It’s purely an emotional reaction.

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