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OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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One thing that always worries me with these acquisitions: how are they gonna handle the impending 5.6M+ Stripe Connect users who rely on OpenRouter's APIs? Will they integrate it into their core infrastructure or leave it as a separate product?

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#455

Using Open in your company name, when there's nothing about it, should be illegal.

I think it is fitting because they provide „all“ models independent from the provider. Open in this sense means to me being open to switch the model, speed and provider at any time.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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post #294

I love OpenRouter, long time user. Stripe will hopefully be a good custodian. I just want to point out some features of OpenRouter that make it more than just a model selection and routing endpoint and that I find incredibly useful: 0/ Default routing is to the cheapest provider, but they're usually not the most performant. I'd guess 99% of OpenRouter integrations never tweak the default routing. Here you can setup c…

They might be popular for indie developers, but nobody doing serious AI or in a corporate environment is using them. And if they are, their compliance team is about to strike them down. The VCs forcing this acquisition do know this. - Why would you add a penalty of 50 ms at a minimum? And that is not the p95... Just run LiteLLM in house and you dont even really need that. - Their capacity pools are shared across the…

Yep. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49344067

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#458
Alex (the OpenRouter founder) and I went for walks to Sightglass coffee on Divisadero St during our weekly office hours @ HF0 in the Fall of '23.

On one walk I asked 'why are you doing another startup?'

For context, his last one, OpenSea, was valued well into the billions, so it wasn't for money.

His reply: "I just love solving all the puzzles."

It's incredibly hard to compete with someone who is playing the game for the love of the game.

Kudos on playing well, Alex.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Don't post generated text or AI-edited text. HN is for conversation between humans." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

sorry, I thought it might be interesting to see the backstory of the company. I also clearly marked that part of my comment is from ChatGPT. I can delete my comment, though.

Sorry - that probably came across as more passive-aggressive that I mean it. Just wanted to point out that guideline. People have easy access to AI, so they can always ask it for a summary if they want to and it doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren’t trading tokens, they are a market for compute. The difference matters quite a lot. What you have in openrouter is the ability to exchange money for compute at the vendor of your choice. We are basically back to 2020 trying to get people to understand that an NFT is NOT the underlying asset it abstractly represents…

> The difference matters quite a lot. Please go on as I do not get your point.

You spend $100 to get tokens from Claude. Then go to your friend and tell them you are willing to sell the tokens you got for $50, it’s a bargain! They look at you, tell you that makes absolutely no sense, and why the fuck would they want to buy your tokens, ie something that only makes sense in your very specific prompting context.

Tokens don’t have an inherent value and have no other properties that would make they tradeable.

Another way to think about it: a company that spends $1M on tokens is burning that money hoping they will be able to recoup by generating a better product. If it would be tradeable, they could spend $1M to generate tokens, produce absolutely no product, and just resell all those tokens to get their money back. That’s obviously nonsense, that’s not at all what tokens are. And they cannot transform the tokens they got into compute, you need to consume hardware and energy to mint tokens, you cannot convert tokens into hardware

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