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Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Cursor, which is now owned by Elon, who tried very hard to get all manner of data about citizens with his intrusions? I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this isn't a great idea. He'll use it to feed Grok. I'm not a big fan of Github right now either but I wouldn't consider this alternative due to its ownership chain.

cursor now wants your code

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Instead of creating one more centralized alternative, it's best to invest all effort into a decentralized solution, like Radicle[1][2] or federated Forgejo[3][4]. [1] https://radicle.dev/ [2] https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad%3Az3gqcJU... [3] https://forgejo.org/ [4] https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/src/branch/m...

I feel like this misses the value of something like Github or Origin entirely though. There's nothing terribly difficult about hosting a git server. The UX and pull requests capabilities are a little involved, but there are alternatives today. What makes Github special is the ecosystem and integrations. Sentry, Linear, and so many other tools have special UX around Github. You need centralization (or at the very leas…

I think the UX around pull requests and code reviews are extremely difficult to get right and to this day I haven't seen a platform that I'm really happy with. There are bits and pieces in some places but none really bring stuff together. Here a small list of things I'd like to see: - diffs should be language aware and highlight semantic differences - I should have a working LSP on both the old and the new version simultaneously and have decent full editor code navigation features and git history inspection available - I want ergonomic ways to see diffs between different versions of commits - I would like to be able to comment on anything (commit messages, inter diffs, PR description, responses, etc.) - I want a better integration of LLM reviews than having them dump their findings in an a big PR comment

I think there is plenty or room to innovate on just the basics of PR and codereview.

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Instead of creating one more centralized alternative, it's best to invest all effort into a decentralized solution, like Radicle[1][2] or federated Forgejo[3][4]. [1] https://radicle.dev/ [2] https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad%3Az3gqcJU... [3] https://forgejo.org/ [4] https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/src/branch/m...

I feel like this misses the value of something like Github or Origin entirely though. There's nothing terribly difficult about hosting a git server. The UX and pull requests capabilities are a little involved, but there are alternatives today. What makes Github special is the ecosystem and integrations. Sentry, Linear, and so many other tools have special UX around Github. You need centralization (or at the very leas…

> What makes Github special is the ecosystem and integrations. Sentry, Linear, and so many other tools […]

github didn’t start with those things. Those things came with adoption.

Its like all those people who bemoan their favourite software not existing on Linux as a reason not to switch, completely oblivious to the fact that this hegemony is the reason linux doesn’t have that software.

It’s like an appeal to the status quo - its self fulfilling, impossible to break.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Agreed on all points. I think people often forget that GitHub is really more akin to a social network than it is a software development tool. By that I mean the stuff that makes GitHub great is all the same stuff that originally made social networks exciting (back before the algorithm was tuned into a horrifying cycle of negativity).

except when you are paying for their enterprise edition - and they make no distinction between paying customers (quite a bit actually once you add in actions costs + their other addons, it's quite a bit of money) and their free tier full of AI slop PRs on rando projects. As someone who pays github, I'm super annoyed at the downtime and still I'm getting charged for actions running that all fail from their lack of con…

Oh I agree that the outages are unacceptable regardless of their “social media origin”.

I also don’t buy their excuse that it’s due to increased loads due to AI. If that were the case then we’d see more patterns to the outages. But instead it affects all GitHub systems but at different times. It feels more like a problem with their orchestration layer than capacity issues.

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Anthropic use Deepseek behind the scenes instead of their own models, whenever they feel like it. People have shared outputs from Claude that show internal tool errors the models have accidently returned with Deepseek error codes.

I'm curious about this, where'd you learn that?

There were quite a few people from the AI community on X sharing screenshots.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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*Atlassian from Australia has joined the chat*

Mostly they joined the chat to show you what real misery is. I tried Jira and they couldn't even handle simple billing without screwing it up. Ugh

I recently had to rebuild a jira frontend from scratch just so a single jira tab didn't take down my 8gb MacBook. Support only the subset of features I actually use and it's great. Makes me hate jira even more.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Instead of creating one more centralized alternative, it's best to invest all effort into a decentralized solution, like Radicle[1][2] or federated Forgejo[3][4]. [1] https://radicle.dev/ [2] https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad%3Az3gqcJU... [3] https://forgejo.org/ [4] https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/src/branch/m...

I feel like this misses the value of something like Github or Origin entirely though. There's nothing terribly difficult about hosting a git server. The UX and pull requests capabilities are a little involved, but there are alternatives today. What makes Github special is the ecosystem and integrations. Sentry, Linear, and so many other tools have special UX around Github. You need centralization (or at the very leas…

> What makes Github special is the ecosystem and integrations. Sentry, Linear, and so many other tools have special UX around Github. You need centralization (or at the very least, a standard) for that.

I think “a standard” is the key here. There is no reason why integrations must work through a proprietary centralized service.

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