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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Post by imtringued »

mrexroad wrote: post #203
memonkey wrote: post #115

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For all of these things, then what's the point of having a humanoid robot then? The last thing is a folding laundry bot that I would happily also pay $1000 for.

> folding laundry robot This is my dream for a house chore robot. If I could dump hampers of clothes into a receptacle and get stacks of folded clothes out, I’d happily pay $1k. Household of 5; my kids each produce 3-4 sets of clothes a day (sleep, school, sports, after school). I run wash in AM so dryer finishes before 3pm (pg&e ToU) and then I’m focused on other things for rest of day. More often than not, I get to…

A foldimate costs a fraction of your $1k.

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Post by ACCount37 »

jhanschoo wrote: post #439
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #436

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Yea we got here through recognizing the bitter lesson is a description of reality and adopting techniques that exploit it The entire history of this field is precisely that problem and repeatedly demonstrated

I don't know how you can read my comment, not respond to my comment saying that today's self-driving cars use LIDAR, and continue to reiterate your point. I don't think I was clear and explicit, it being tedious to write, and I apologize for that. I also apologize for shifting the goalposts as I had not written out my own position, which is not exactly in the "grandparent commenter"'s position (that I had not previou…

Tesla's entire fleet runs on raw cameras. Including the driverless Robotaxi vehicles - which are basically a 1:1 match to how Waymo operates.

Plenty of hecklers were saying "you can't self-drive on cameras", and some still try. But Tesla's self-driving on cameras, and it seems to work fine. While Waymo's self-driving on fat sensor stacks, and it also seems to work fine. Sensors don't seem to be a differentiator of self-driving performance.

I don't think anything about self-driving tech supports your claim. Tesla was bullish on AI all the way, and Waymo has also shifted towards highly integrated end to end AI. It's the AI advances that make self-driving tractable - not anything else.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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nearbuy wrote: post #409
monknomo wrote: post #126

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I doubt it'd save you from purchasing a dishwasher - those things are very efficient and not very expensive. Perhaps it'd save you from loading and unloading a dishwasher

I have a dishwasher and I still usually just hand wash. It takes about 10 seconds to wash a dish. The side benefit is all your dishes are always available. With the dishwasher, up to one full dishwasher load are dirty at any time, which means you need more dishes and more cupboard space than someone without a dishwasher. If the robot is going to clear your dishes and wash them for you right away, what's the dishwashe…

Just use the shortest two cycle program while following the two stage powder suggestion by Technology Connections. Obviously, if you are American you have to make sure the water going into the dishwasher is hot.

Honestly I don't even bother with two cycles and just use a 45 minute program in a 45cm wide dishwasher while throwing the extra powder in there anyway because it is too cheap to care about the waste vs tabs.

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Post by qnleigh »

Geee wrote: post #218

I've kind of given up on humanoid robotics, because of how bad the actuators are. There has been no innovation in robotic actuators since Honda's Asimo. There's just no way that someone wants a 80kg wobbling tin can in their home or workplace. My bet is that the final robotic revolution will use genetically modified human/animal bodies with replaced brains. You'll have to stretch your ethics a bit, but if you grow a…

Wow, I know what my next nightmare will be about.

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Post by broeng »

azan_ wrote: post #442
JeremyNT wrote: post #258

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It's certainly an odd situation where Google is on the forefront of all these emerging technologies while the latest chatbots from OpenAI and Anthropic are getting breathless press releases and wildly hyperbolic coverage ("rogue AIs" "too dangerous, must be banned" etc...) Google acting like a normal but competent company that's just chugging away, meanwhile the hype cycle is propping up its upstart competitors to tr…

It’s because their products are really bad. Last time I tried Gemini it repeatedly lied about running internet search when explicitly asked to do it. I know their models benchmark really well, but in real world the performance is abysmal.

Maybe it was just using Google Search, and not finding anything ...
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