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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by DaSHacka »

pesus wrote: post #407
al_borland wrote: post #378

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People who engage in these antics would quickly find that there isn’t a single company where all the employees align with all their values. They would then either need to accept their hypocrisy or reject society completely to live in the forest somewhere.

Maybe we can start with not supporting companies that have cofounders that directly financially support ethnic cleansing.

That sounds like a good idea! I fail to see how it's related to this thread's topic, however.

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Post by vrganj »

joinjune wrote: post #433
vrganj wrote: post #120

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Hi Fredrik, long time user of your service. I have to say, this is a disappointing message. The thing about intolerant movements is that tolerance doesn't fix them, it makes them worse and lets them accumulate power until they can destroy the tolerant. I'd recommend reading Karl Popper and his Paradox of Tolerance, which he formulated after seeing this exact thing play out in his native Austria with the rise of the N…

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I don't belong to any party.

I come from a country that was devastated by fascists like the ones the Mullvad founder funds and history taught us anything but opposition is collaboration.

Go ask the millions of people murdered in concentration camps how tolerating Nazi ideas worked out for them.

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Post by armchairhacker »

panarky wrote: post #398
mrhottakes wrote: post #334

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So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ... Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." >> the same way that someone's opinions on animal…

> restricting the free expression of people

I don’t support remigration, but calling immigration “the free expression of people” is a stretch. It’s orthogonal.

You can argue that remigration isn’t protecting the privacy of those who are surveilled by the government or deported to repressive countries that surveil their population. But Mullvad’s product protects even those people (it must, because it hides the identity of who’s using it from itself).

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Post by DaSHacka »

well_ackshually wrote: post #386
a34729t wrote: post #357

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Considering their CEO is only supporting a party whose primary goal is mass deportation of undocumented and documented immigrants as well of legal citizens, it's going to be one of the easiest purity check of my life. A good fascist is a dead fascist.

You quite literally invented almost all of your comment just to create a strawman you could get mad at, then morally grandstand about.

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Post by eastbound »

pesus wrote: post #336
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

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Post by fastball »

panarky wrote: post #398
mrhottakes wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're a political company, but you don't want people to examine the politics of the people running the company? That seems naive.

>> Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment ... Karl Popper said, "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." >> the same way that someone's opinions on animal…

> When you make a large donation to a political party whose most fundamental policy is restricting the free expression of people

Where can I read more about how this is the fundamental policy of the Örebro party?

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Post by aftbit »

burkaman wrote: post #358
dreambuffer wrote: post #349

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Why does it say your comment was made 2 days ago, when the thread has only been up for 6 hours?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48721560

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48721551

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Post by lbnzuni »

alexseman wrote: post #333
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Thanks Fredrik, will actually be switching to Mullvad.

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