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Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by tremon »

SparkyMcUnicorn wrote: post #404
somat wrote: post #382

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DoH is intended to be indistinguishable from HTTPS traffic, if the application specifies a specific DoH server a DNS based ad block will not work. Right now The ad companies have not really figured this out and DoH largely works like port 53 DNS did. But give it a few years. They will up their game and our ability to mitm our own dns queries will vanish. I will miss it.

Freedom of DNS choice has nothing to do with DoH. And you can definitely mitm a non-configurable DoH resolver if you absolutely needed to do that, as long as you can add your own trusted CA on a device.

> Freedom of DNS choice has nothing to do with DoH

The attack vector that DoH offers is that data exfiltration companies will start shipping their own DNS resolver in javascript to work around DNS-based filtering. They can't do this with regular DNS because the network traffic can still be observed and blocked independently, but how will you block a browser from accessing specific https URLs without MITM'ing all traffic?

So yes, DoH does have something to do with DNS choice: it can completely subvert the OS-provided domain resolver service as well as the browser-configured one.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by tremon »

esseph wrote: post #359
gonzalohm wrote: post #289

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But I'm wondering if you are doing something wrong. I just tried nebula in Firefox 151.0.3 and it works flawlessly. Full screen works, all buttons in the player work. I also tried it on Firefox for Android and it works. Do you have any other websites that don't work?

Even on a blank profile. A lot of web devs simply do not test on anything else, even for billion and trillion dollar companies, I've seen it first hand. This includes a lot of state and federal government websites. Note: I have said nothing about nebula, I don't even know what that is if it's not the network overlay. https://nebula.defined.net/docs/

Probably referring to the content platform: https://nebula.tv/

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by make3 »

thisislife2 wrote: post #445
stronglikedan wrote: post #380

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I use both daily and Chrome is still faster and more intuitive, which is unfortunate because I'd really like to degoogle.

Use Un-googled Chromium - https://ungoogled-software.github.io/about/ ... it's Chrome without the Google crap.

Will ublock work with this?

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by tremon »

HDBaseT wrote: post #398
yumraj wrote: post #281

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Such as?

YouTube is an example of a site that Firefox has trouble handling. Unsure if its a Firefox bug, Google pushing nonsense or uBlock Origin but constantly the YouTube UI Lags, video playback buffers, freeze, etc. Some days its near unuseable on Firefox, but I push through.

> YouTube is an example of a site that Firefox has trouble handling

That's fully on Google. I use plenty of other streaming sites where Firefox handles full-screen video just fine. Coming from the web search company that penalizes the rest of the Internet for slow-loading pages, Youtube is basically an embarrassment and I'm convinced this is completely intentional.

It's gotten so bad that I don't even try to watch Youtube in-browser any more; when someone posts a link that I think might be worth the effort, it goes straight into youtube-dl and I'll watch it offline or not at all.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by KetoManx64 »

Animats wrote: post #350
chinathrow wrote: post #23

Look, we're having a good time on Firefox since November 9, 2004. Come join us!

My Ad Limiter add-on is down to 19 users on Firefox. Used to be thousands. It won't work on Chrome at all now. I'm shutting down SiteTruth, after almost 20 years.[1] [1] https://www.sitetruth.com

I hate to be the guy to say this, but uBlockOrigin outcompeted you half a decade ago. It's the first extension Install on a fresh install and I have never heard of your extension or site.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by fsflover »

nubinetwork wrote: post #450
fsflover wrote: post #389

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So you trust Google who is killing any protection from tracking but do not trust Mozilla that supports a strong protection?

I never said that I was a Chrome user, I said that I equally don't trust Mozilla.

> equally

Here comes the problem. I don't see how this is justified.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by Telemakhos »

eps wrote: post #435
Telemakhos wrote: post #331

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I never went back to Firefox after they killed the Pimpzilla theme.

Conventionally, jokes not terminated with smileys aren't accepted on HN.

It's not a joke. The Pimpzilla theme stopped working due to changes that Mozilla made to Firefox's layout system, and I dropped Firefox for Safari. Never went back.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by thisislife2 »

make3 wrote: post #453
thisislife2 wrote: post #445

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Use Un-googled Chromium - https://ungoogled-software.github.io/about/ ... it's Chrome without the Google crap.

Will ublock work with this?

Last I remember, they were contemplating retaining MV2 too in future releases so that uBlock (and other extensions don't lose functionality) - https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/iss... ...
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