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Re: Siri AI

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Post by nomilk »

I placed eggs into boiling water and because my hands were wet I used voice and said "hey Siri, start a timer". It replied "you'll have to unlock your iPhone first", so I hovered my face over the bench the phone was sitting on, then the screen rattled and prompted for the numeric passcode. Ugh..

Using Siri essentially required me to use my hands anyway, so what's the point of voice?

I'd very seriously consider moving away from iPhone to a device that treats voice AI as a first class citizen (presently I mapped the 'double back tap' to open grok voice chat, and triple back tap to end it, which is a wonderful improvement over not having these, as you can do that pretty easily, even while driving etc).

Re: Siri AI

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Post by prathamtharwani »

lucaspiller wrote: post #439
dhosek wrote: post #356

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A few years ago, the ability to do anything other than a timed walk on my watch with Siri broke. I used to be able to do things like say, “start a 3 mile walk” or “start a 200 calorie walk” and then the latter stopped working and then the former stopped letting me do non-integer numbers of miles and then nothing at all and now I cannot do anything other than start an unmeasured walk or a timed walk with siri and I’m…

Google did the same bullshit on Android. With Google Assistant (old assistant) I could say "Hey Google, play daft punk" and it would start playing Daft Punk on Spotify. With Gemini (new assistant) it says "sorry I cannot play music, but here are links to services where you can find Daft Punk albums". Fortunately at the moment you can still toggle between them. I guess not for long though.

I just tried "Hey Google, play daft punk" with the new Gemini assistant and it works as expected?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by zombot »

nomilk wrote: post #451

I placed eggs into boiling water and because my hands were wet I used voice and said "hey Siri, start a timer". It replied "you'll have to unlock your iPhone first", so I hovered my face over the bench the phone was sitting on, then the screen rattled and prompted for the numeric passcode. Ugh.. Using Siri essentially required me to use my hands anyway, so what's the point of voice? I'd very seriously consider moving…

Don't do back taps require hands?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by nomilk »

zombot wrote: post #453
nomilk wrote: post #451

I placed eggs into boiling water and because my hands were wet I used voice and said "hey Siri, start a timer". It replied "you'll have to unlock your iPhone first", so I hovered my face over the bench the phone was sitting on, then the screen rattled and prompted for the numeric passcode. Ugh.. Using Siri essentially required me to use my hands anyway, so what's the point of voice? I'd very seriously consider moving…

Don't do back taps require hands?

They do (one hand), but it doesn't require anything precise (like finding the app and clicking on it, which you can't really do while driving). If Siri could open an AI voice chat, that would awesome. But I'm not counting on that within this decade.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by yoavm »

dd8601fn wrote: post #179
pornel wrote: post #123

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In the EU case, Apple weaponizes people's ignorance about regulation. Apple pretends that the features everyone else has been shipping left and right somehow need extra paperwork and special approvals, because (…checks notes…) pro-privacy EU laws let zero-privacy competitors sail through, but block implementations that offer more privacy!? What's really happening is Apple unilaterally withholding features while makin…

It IS regulatory. The EU wants “anything Apple AI can do you have to let other AI providers do with equal access”. Which is fucking stupid, and Apple will never, ever throw open the gates to something so dangerously braindead. Their entire reputation depends on it. And China is kinda self-explanatory.

What is stupid about it? Sounds like (a slightly more) fair competition to me.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Danox »

MattDamonSpace wrote: post #188
andsoitis wrote: post #185

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> I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. Why? What strengths and structural advantages do you think thy have? What black swan situation could arise that Apple cannot counter?

I just can’t imagine another computing device from a competitor company that 1) threatens the smartphone 2) apple couldn’t copy and mass produce at higher quality If there’s truly an existential threat to its device business, Copy Well

The company that will challenge Apple will be one that possesses the capability to develop both an operating system and hardware at a high level right now, who is this company? There is one company that may one day, but that company isn’t in the west and no, it isn’t Nvidia.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by losteric »

cjonas wrote: post #450
idle_zealot wrote: post #442

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Even the aspirational use cases you're talking about basically are just "digital secretary." There's a massive problem with that even if the models end up being capable in the future. The value of a secretary is that you know them, they know you, and you trust them to do things right. There are stakes if they don't. No company can provide that as a service at scale for everyone without it being a disaster. Not becaus…

These use cases will just be built as "open source" (openclawd) or even custom one off application in the future. I've been building apps to run the tedious parts of my life recently. Meal planning, personal finance, bills, tax organization... Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build a app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon. Yes the code is shit and it wouldn't scale... But i…

> Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build an app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon.

When we talk about “the market”, the customer base, remember it’s a market that typically doesn’t know how to or care to even install an adblocker.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Skunkleton »

Schiendelman wrote: post #386
yesitcan wrote: post #296

> Aga sent you a message about Calanthea, a plant. > Aga: have you heard of Calanthea? It’s a plant. Really groundbreaking use of AI!

That's not what that is showing, it isn't reading a text you just got. It's you asking about the plant she told you about, it finding that text message, summarizing, and also proving with the text that it's accurate.

> Schiendelman sent you a message on hacker news clarifying what its showing. It's you asking about the plant she told you about, it finding that text message, summarizing, and also proving with the text that it's accurate.

wow! we are in the future!

Re: Siri AI

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Post by [deleted] »

losteric wrote: post #457
cjonas wrote: post #450

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These use cases will just be built as "open source" (openclawd) or even custom one off application in the future. I've been building apps to run the tedious parts of my life recently. Meal planning, personal finance, bills, tax organization... Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build a app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon. Yes the code is shit and it wouldn't scale... But i…

> Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build an app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon. When we talk about “the market”, the customer base, remember it’s a market that typically doesn’t know how to or care to even install an adblocker.

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Re: Siri AI

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Post by cjonas »

losteric wrote: post #457
cjonas wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These use cases will just be built as "open source" (openclawd) or even custom one off application in the future. I've been building apps to run the tedious parts of my life recently. Meal planning, personal finance, bills, tax organization... Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build a app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon. Yes the code is shit and it wouldn't scale... But i…

> Why would I pay for services that will be enshiftified when I can build an app that does exactly what I want in an afternoon. When we talk about “the market”, the customer base, remember it’s a market that typically doesn’t know how to or care to even install an adblocker.

I don't see any mention of "the market" anywhere in this thread. I'm just talking about the ability for a motivated user to solve real problems with these tools. Right now these solutions are available to software developers but over time it will become approachable to more users
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