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Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by apitman »

senko wrote: post #385

My fav coding benchmark for frontier models is to build a simple RTS game in one file (js/html/css). Claude Code with Opus 4.8 in ultracode mode nailed it, the best result so far: https://bsky.app/profile/senko.net/post/3mmwnrkwboc2v The prompt was: Create a simple but functional real time strategy (RTS) game similar to old WarCraft, StarCraft or Command & Conquer games. The player should be able to build buildings,…

I like that benchmark. You should throw the results up on GitHub pages so people can try out the games.

Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

TIPSIO wrote: post #311
alansaber wrote: post #247

"Our models are more honest" honey the quarterly marketing spin for a ML term has come. Forget "task alignment" now we're going for "truth index". I suppose this is the only way to generate hype when you're selling/releasing the same product over and over again.

When doing some electrical, Opus 4.7 essentially told me to wiggle a wire to see if it was hot or not with my bare hand. I called it out. It then gave me one of the most super heartfelt honest and sincere apologies I have ever received. Glad the safety team was there for me and able to make such an honest model or I would have been very upset about it.

Opus is so bad at electrical work it's really disappointing. And when it tries to draw schematics as SVGs it's a complete disaster. They should either focus on training their LLMs on this task specifically, or have it refuse.

Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by mrandish »

NiloCK wrote: post #77

A rambling comment: I think this is the first time we've had a third minor version bump on a frontier Anthropic model. (I count the 0.5s as major here, because they've been issued non-sequentially and also corresponded to massive capability leaps, eg, Sonnet 3.5, Opus 4.5). So now the Opus 4.5 family has successors 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8, each posting fairly modest claimed gains. My own experience w/ 4.6 and 4.7 are that…

I suspect the more frequent incremental releases may also be to deploy new capabilities used by Anthropic to control costs and throttle consumption of resources. I assume any new controls they expose to end-users have far more granular sub-controls under the hood which they can meta-adjust for each user type.

They mention more granular control of effort, 'dynamic workflows' and more speed controls ("fast mode"). While they position them as user features, they also sound like the kinds of knobs Anthropic will need to twiddle on the back-end to balance costs, margins, ARR, and user growth vs retention post-IPO to hit key metrics in quarterly reporting.

Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by coldtea »

firebirdn99 wrote: post #264
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't be surprised if the next gen frontier models are the last. There's orders of magnitude of low hanging juice to squeeze out of smaller models. It is almost guaranteed that a 60-90B model can outperform current SOTA in coding tasks within 2-3 years (design not certain, probably unlikely). It is far less clear that a 1.2T model will be meaningfully better enough to justify training it. As far as reasoning is con…

you just need to look at Mythos to see the jump in performance from a 10T(?) model. As they scale, they get more capable. We might have an yearly release, but I believe the releases will continue, as long as scaling laws are in tact, and there's huge problems still need solving. (think cancer)

>you just need to look at Mythos to see the jump in performance from a 10T(?) model

Mythos is a bunch of likely overhyped claims at this point. A few experts who looked into the claimed results weren't that impressed.

Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by jimbokun »

vlovich123 wrote: post #257
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't be surprised if the next gen frontier models are the last. There's orders of magnitude of low hanging juice to squeeze out of smaller models. It is almost guaranteed that a 60-90B model can outperform current SOTA in coding tasks within 2-3 years (design not certain, probably unlikely). It is far less clear that a 1.2T model will be meaningfully better enough to justify training it. As far as reasoning is con…

Took me a while to find what you were referring to by gram. Arxiv paper from 9 days ago that's not properly indexed by search engines. (G)enerative (R)ecursive re(A)soning (M)odels. They really wanted the acronym. https://arxiv.org/html/2605.19376v1

Just spell it GRRM but pronounce it “gram” if you have to reference it in spoken conversation.

Which will be pretty rare.

Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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NiloCK wrote: post #77

A rambling comment: I think this is the first time we've had a third minor version bump on a frontier Anthropic model. (I count the 0.5s as major here, because they've been issued non-sequentially and also corresponded to massive capability leaps, eg, Sonnet 3.5, Opus 4.5). So now the Opus 4.5 family has successors 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8, each posting fairly modest claimed gains. My own experience w/ 4.6 and 4.7 are that…

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Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by holoduke »

michaelchisari wrote: post #339
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't be surprised if the next gen frontier models are the last. There's orders of magnitude of low hanging juice to squeeze out of smaller models. It is almost guaranteed that a 60-90B model can outperform current SOTA in coding tasks within 2-3 years (design not certain, probably unlikely). It is far less clear that a 1.2T model will be meaningfully better enough to justify training it. As far as reasoning is con…

| a 60-90B model can outperform current SOTA My conspiracy theory is that Apple recognizes this.

You need some serious memory then. Let's say around 192gb for having not all your memory eaten by your LLM.

Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by rotcev »

NiloCK wrote: post #77

A rambling comment: I think this is the first time we've had a third minor version bump on a frontier Anthropic model. (I count the 0.5s as major here, because they've been issued non-sequentially and also corresponded to massive capability leaps, eg, Sonnet 3.5, Opus 4.5). So now the Opus 4.5 family has successors 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8, each posting fairly modest claimed gains. My own experience w/ 4.6 and 4.7 are that…

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Re: Claude Opus 4.8

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Post by jere »

NiloCK wrote: post #77

A rambling comment: I think this is the first time we've had a third minor version bump on a frontier Anthropic model. (I count the 0.5s as major here, because they've been issued non-sequentially and also corresponded to massive capability leaps, eg, Sonnet 3.5, Opus 4.5). So now the Opus 4.5 family has successors 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8, each posting fairly modest claimed gains. My own experience w/ 4.6 and 4.7 are that…

"it's smarter than me?"

You don't have to correct it dozens of times a day!? Really?

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