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Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Well, it's that or the accounts get removed completely. Sometimes you have to pick your fight, and this doesn't look like one that's worth it.

This is a false dichotomy, especially in light of the article mentioning that Twitter hasn't blocked accounts that KSA asked them to block.

It boils down to how risk-averse a given company is. Meta tends to be extremely risk-averse, because they have more to lose IMO.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Good, let them leave, then. I'm tired of this excuse of "but the parasites are crucial to our way of life". As if the invisible hand won't have dozens of other companies to compete and fill the void should the monopoly man walk away with his money. They've had decades to move to Dubai or New Zealand or whatever other magical country doesn't tax its residents. I wonder why they choose to stay in one of the richest cou…

My point is they can still influence the US even if they / their money isn’t there. Do you really live in that much of a US-centric bubble where you don’t realise outside influence exists?

You realize that there is no sort of outsized influence we couldn't declare illegal?

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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My point is they can still influence the US even if they / their money isn’t there. Do you really live in that much of a US-centric bubble where you don’t realise outside influence exists?

You realize that there is no sort of outsized influence we couldn't declare illegal?

I’m not sure you know how the world works lol.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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Right, but it should be acknowledged that this is likely an amoral decision on Facebook's part (or more charitably, a pragmatic decision) not an immoral one. The governments that forced these changes in the first place are of course acting immorally, that's not in dispute.

I don’t think that’s what amoral means. It’s not malicious but doing something that hurts others just because you gain money from it isn’t amoral just because you’re not doing it just to inflict pain. Hyperbolic example: If your boss tells you to kill the next customer or you won’t get paid, doing the killing isn’t amoral.

Is working for the military immoral? After all, hurting others is the entire point of the whole thing

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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post #207

It's clear time and again that having short-term growth at all costs means you can't have principles.

Both are major suppliers of oil and petroleum products. You have short term principles too. It’s not like you’re not buying things linked to Saudi Arabia or UAE for lack of human rights. If you do business in a country you’re expected to follow the laws of the country. The device you made the comment from is most likely made in China or has several parts made there. But Meta is evil… I don’t like meta for their creep…

> It’s not like you’re not buying things linked to Saudi Arabia or UAE for lack of human rights.

The fact that these criminals are embedded so deeply in our society is a reason to fight against them even harder. They are corrupting politics, they are corrupting the economy, they are pushing for lower salaries and less rights for the working class across the globe. They can be stopped and should be stopped.

One does not stop fighting cancer just because it has spread out.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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The Islamic system does not permit uncontrolled capitalism, requires fair financial transactions, is pro rights for both rulers and the population, enforces Zakat (alms tax / a form of wealth tax).

Neither does Christianity, but you really wouldn't really know that by observing the practices of so called Christian Nations™

The west is practically fully secular, and they have relegated religion to individualistic practice, so to your point, there aren't any "christian nations". This is on purpose so those in power are able to do whatever they want.

They're trying to do the same with Islam, enormous amounts of money are being spent, but Islam has the advantage of an extremely strict and rigorous scholarly heritage and preservation, thank God. We are under no illusion that the battle will be an easy one. Much of what's happening today has been foretold in our texts.

Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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operating here is the buying and selling of ads

I'd argue doing business with a foreigner doesn't constitute "operating in" that person's country if you never set foot there. They came to you , not the other way around.

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Re: Meta blocks human rights accounts from reaching audiences in Saudi Arabia, UAE

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post #454

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I don’t think that’s what amoral means. It’s not malicious but doing something that hurts others just because you gain money from it isn’t amoral just because you’re not doing it just to inflict pain. Hyperbolic example: If your boss tells you to kill the next customer or you won’t get paid, doing the killing isn’t amoral.

Is working for the military immoral? After all, hurting others is the entire point of the whole thing

Depending on the country, for sure yes. Working for Russia military is definitely immoral IMHO
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