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Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by hypercube33 »

suzzer99 wrote: post #376
mitchellh wrote: post #76

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Correct. I use AI a ton and I'm having more fun every day than I ever did before thanks to it (on average, highs are higher, lows are lower). Your characterization is all very accurate. Thank you. Here's some other topics I've written on it: - https://mitchellh.com/writing/my-ai-adoption-journey - https://mitchellh.com/writing/building-block-economy - https://mitchellh.com/writing/simdutf-no-libcxx (complex change th…

I’ve had to do a ton of SQL stuff lately, which I haven’t really worked with since the late 90s. ChatGPT has been a godsend, not just for me, but for our only coworker who knows SQL well, whom I’d probably be bugging several times a day at my wits’ end. But no one cares about those kinds of productivity gains. Just the ones that will completely replace us.

I'm the old school type who writes out a document that explains what I plan on doing in markdown even if it's generic like "a window with x and y buttons" and the logic flow and then use that to have ai write a plan with me before I send it off to execute it. This has worked super well.

I do enjoy giving the frontier models wacky projects that I can't even find examples of how to do online but I don't expect any results or need them and some have done really well with it while others fall on their face (models)

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by ro_bit »

billywhizz wrote: post #193
jeremyjh wrote: post #143

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What concerns me about this is that as these stories multiply and circulate people will just completely stop buying software/SAAS from startups, because 90% or more will be this same thing. It will completely kill the market.

> It will completely kill the market. it will kill all the people in that hospital too

Yeah but only one of those actually puts those responsible in prison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes

> On January 3, 2022, the jury found Holmes guilty on four of the seven counts related to defrauding investors: three counts of wire fraud, and one of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. She was found not guilty on four counts related to defrauding patients

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by locknitpicker »

techblueberry wrote: post #448
vividfrier wrote: post #440

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To me the big thing I see in blog posts is this implication that “all software engineering best practices are out the window” And to me, AI should best be used to add rocket fuel to existing practices. Better tests, better observability, more atomic changes instead of big changes, automatic rollback etc.

> To me the big thing I see in blog posts is this implication that “all software engineering best practices are out the window”

Yes, this is indeed a pungent smell. AI code assistants allow whole projects to be refactored and even rewritten in entirely different programming languages and software stacks in a few minutes, sometimes even with one-shot prompts. Most assistants even support creating and maintaining test suites with first-class support. Whatever you prompt, they do it.

And here we are, expected to believe that these tools can't or don't follow best practices?

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Post by zarzavat »

vividfrier wrote: post #440

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Some programmers are gardeners. It sounds like you're one too. Your job is to maintain a large existing codebase. You probably didn't understand the entire codebase before AI, nobody did, so it doesn't matter that you don't understand it now. AI is very good at gardening, nobody doubts that.

Other programmers are painters. Their job is to start with a blank canvas and create something that others will value. When AI tries to paint, it tends to produce slop: a facsimile of everything it's ever seen.

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Post by zipy124 »

ycombiredd wrote: post #219
elktown wrote: post #106

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I thinking that it’s quite a different experience going all Jackson Pollock with AI in your own studio on your own terms, compared to the sorry state of affairs of having 100s of Pollocks throwing paint around wildly within a corp to meet a paint quota.

> 100s of Pollocks throwing paint around wildly within a corp to meet a paint quota I wish I had written that.

Quite the visualisation

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by germandiago »

Honest comment: it is transition time. This time is to make bets and take positions. Your humble position maybe.

I already took a couple of decisions. It will go wrong or well. But is was decided a year and a bit ago.

If you think the future will be different, stop doing the same you used to do the same way you used to do it.

My analysis is that the labour market will increasingly bargain salaries and will make pressure on you. So how safe is that compared to before? Maybe working for someone as an employed full time person is not the best thing you can do anymore.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by skydhash »

suzzer99 wrote: post #376
mitchellh wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct. I use AI a ton and I'm having more fun every day than I ever did before thanks to it (on average, highs are higher, lows are lower). Your characterization is all very accurate. Thank you. Here's some other topics I've written on it: - https://mitchellh.com/writing/my-ai-adoption-journey - https://mitchellh.com/writing/building-block-economy - https://mitchellh.com/writing/simdutf-no-libcxx (complex change th…

I’ve had to do a ton of SQL stuff lately, which I haven’t really worked with since the late 90s. ChatGPT has been a godsend, not just for me, but for our only coworker who knows SQL well, whom I’d probably be bugging several times a day at my wits’ end. But no one cares about those kinds of productivity gains. Just the ones that will completely replace us.

I'm always amazed by those comments. Why couldn't you buy a book on SQL[0], and spend a week on it? Or just go over to YouTube for a refresher?

[0]: Like https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/sql-queries-for/9780134...

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Post by fractallyte »

CoderKatrina wrote: post #377
zmmmmm wrote: post #113

I think AI rescue consulting is going to be come a significant mode of high value consulting, similar to specialists who come in to try and deal with a security breach or do data recovery. Purely AI written systems will scale to a point of complexity that no human can ever understand and the defect close rate will taper down and the token burn per defect rate scale up and eventually AI changes will cause on average m…

That sounds so horrible, though. It's akin to people working as COBOL devs because someone has to do it, so they'll get the big bucks. Except I've never heard of anyone who actually likes COBOL and the more I've learned about how mainframe development actually works, the more horrified I've become haha. Dealing with an LLM spaghetti codebase sounds like hell.

There's an LLM for that too...

https://www.hypercubic.ai/hopper

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by mittensc »

vividfrier wrote: post #440

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I'm seeing the exact opposite on a large C++ project.

I have friends at other companies with similar projects, they say the same thing.

It's like we're living in different worlds.

Still, LLMs are nice for well defined small projects, microservices, tools and research.

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