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Yes that plus having tens of billions of gulf money certainly helps you subsidize your moronic failures with money that isn't yours while you continue, and fail to, achieve profitability in any time horizon within a single lifespan.
your prediction is going to be wrong, even with all those caveats
But if this party is sustainable, what’s the deal with the rate limits that everyone is going on about?
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Yes, I believe the creator has outright stated that they just YOLO vibe and don't even look at the code.
I'm not sure I believe them though, at face value anyway. Or at least, I would suspect the entire spectrum of levels 0-9 are constantly at play at Anthropic (or any sizeable company). Fully disavowing the code as a matter of policy seems needlessly reckless. (Thanks for visidata btw, awesome tool that helped me with a side project not long ago.)
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How is "fairly close to deterministic" anywhere near good enough? LLMS aren't anywhere near cheap enough to do this either. That said it's so trivial to do, why haven't you done that already?
I have actually, for my personal projects. I have been writing a library called "assume" where you can specify a type signature, give it a prompt, and it generates a function on the fly in the background with Claude Code, so you still write some code, but whenever you need a function you "assume" that such a function exists. I have a Java version that works right now and I will likely be pushing it within the next we…
All this to say, Vibe Coding as a no-code, even if the solution can hook api's for you, etc, nah. It should be a gateway at best to fully understand and build via agentic development.
> That wouldn’t even be a big violation of the vibe coding concept. You’re reading the innards a little but you’re only giving high-level, conceptual, abstract ideas about how problems should be solved. The machine is doing the vast majority, if not literally all, of the actual writing. Claude Code is being produced at AI Level 7 (Human specced, bots coded), whereas the author is arguing that AI Level 6 (Bots coded,…
And then you have the source code for quake or doom.
It’s truly strange that people keep citing the quality of Claude code’s leaked source as if it’s proof vibe coding doesn’t work. If anything, it’s the exact opposite. It shows that you can build a crazy popular & successful product while violating all the traditional rules about “good” code.
I'm skeptical of the whole thing, it almost seems like a marketing campaign to encourage developers to use more tokens. My experience as a software engineer, including with Claude Code itself, is that the more code you have, the more bugs there are. It quickly turns into a game of Whac-a-Mole where you fix 1 bug and 2 new bugs appear. Looking at the functionality of Claude code. There is no way it requires 500k lines…
"Claude write a one-way function. Wait, no, not like that!"
It’s truly strange that people keep citing the quality of Claude code’s leaked source as if it’s proof vibe coding doesn’t work. If anything, it’s the exact opposite. It shows that you can build a crazy popular & successful product while violating all the traditional rules about “good” code.
I suspect if people saw the handwritten code of many, many, many products that they used every day they would be shocked. I've worked at BigCos and startups, and a lot of the terrible code that makes it to production was shocking when I first started. This isn't a dig at anyone, I've certainly shipped my share of bad code as well. Deadlines, despite my wishes sometimes, continue to exist. Sometimes you have to ship a…
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> It shows that you can build a crazy popular & successful product while violating all the traditional rules about “good” code. We already knew that. This is a matter of people who didn't know that or didn't want to acknowledge that thinking they now have proof that it doesn't matter for creating a crazy popular & successful product, as if it's a gotcha on those who advocate for good practices. When your goal is to c…
WiB is different from Move Fast and Break Things and again different from YAGNI though. WiB doesn't mean the thing is worse, it means it does less. Claude Code interestingly does WAY more than something like Pi which is genuinely WiB. Move Fast and Break Things comes from the assumption that if you capture a market quick enough you will then have time to fix things. YAGNI is simply a reminder that not preparing for c…
Yes, which is why I listed all three.
It's not about if the vibe coding results in any of these strictly, it's that the vibe coder can claim that the low quality doesn't matter and cite any of these as support for why the low quality doesn't matter.
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I have actually, for my personal projects. I have been writing a library called "assume" where you can specify a type signature, give it a prompt, and it generates a function on the fly in the background with Claude Code, so you still write some code, but whenever you need a function you "assume" that such a function exists. I have a Java version that works right now and I will likely be pushing it within the next we…
Sounds like a fun project. And are you committing code for this library? Because it sounds like you are, and if that's the case I don't think you're actually doing what you're talking about.