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Re: Apple Business

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Post by carlosjobim »

dangus wrote: post #448
carlosjobim wrote: post #445

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Linux is too complicated for a normal person to use productively, and it doesn't have the productivity software needed by non-hackers. Windows: Yes, the user experience is that bad. My observations of Windows users is that it's hard for them to get things done effectively because of the faults of the system. Talking about non-hacker people, who might be very proficient in photo editing or spreadsheets or word process…

Can you go into more specific details about these observations you made? Which people were they? Do you have any benchmarks that show this “faster than a PC with double the RAM” claim? Because when I saw real world tests on the Neo versus the Acer Aspire AI 14, the Acer machine was faster at video playback in Adobe Premiere (as an example) due to the lack of memory pressure. I can tell you at work we have a mixed env…

Well, just about everyone I know who uses Windows machines. The most common problem is that the laptop starts downloading and installing Windows updates as soon as it boots up. This hogs all of the CPU and all of the internet bandwidth. And there's no way for non-technical users to understand what's going on. They just say "Well, my computer is slow because it's old. Better go and buy a new one soon, what has the most RAM per dollar spent?" Because their techie friends told them that this is the only thing which matters on a computer.

Or there's a ton of pop-ups of every kind when they're using the machine. Most people just click the biggest button on any popup appearing, without even looking at what it says.

And these are people who work professionally with their computers, but they're not sysadmins or operating system experts.

I don't doubt what you say about Adobe Premiere playback speed. That might be an exception where more RAM does actually matter. But that's hardly a reason to dismiss the 8GB Macbooks. They are great for most users and most professional users.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

cocoflunchy wrote: post #88
geoffharcourt wrote: post #86

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The domain lock process was an absolute fiasco at our company. I think this could work if you did this at the time your company launched, but the moment you have employees who have Apple IDs tied to their work email that aren't from the Business Essentials system you are stuck in an impossible-to-mange place. There are several cheap MDM solutions for Apple devices that I would rather pay for than be dependent on this…

I'm currently in that hellish process too... I don't know how to get out of it. Did you know that your employees will be forbidden from downloading from the App store once you launched that migration? It's a nightmare

The Domain Capture process cannot be canceled once it’s started. It’s also not required, unless by your company policy.

The point is to make sure there’s not a mess on the other end when you enforce SSO for MAIDs.

Apple’s documentation for ABM and ABE is atrocious, but they do manage to document a bunch of footguns, just poorly and in seemingly bizarre places.

For example, ABE doesn’t support MDM migration (either as source or destination), despite the fact that the feature launched with macOS/iOS/iPadOS 26 and is supported by other MDM solutions.

And you cannot push custom config profiles with ABE which declare a non-Apple preference domain. Utter nonsense.

If you’re using the full ABM-with-ADE and MDM stack, it’s expected that you push apps to employees.

You can also use Munki to make apps available to users. You can just push only Munki via MDM if you want, and let it manage app installs and self service installs for you. There are caveats.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by yabutlivnWoods »

geoffharcourt wrote: post #431
yabutlivnWoods wrote: post #313

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> I think this could work if you did this at the time your company launched This should not be a surprise. Greenfield services have not existed long enough to resolve edge cases that inevitably arise while integrating existing operating models already in use.

The broken part of this process (domain claim) has existed for several years as part of ABE, it isn't new.

My point was trying to fit a new company with no barnacles into an existing process model will always be easier than retrofitting an existing company model full of edge cases the service never had to engineer around

Not really sure why you made that point only to wave it away later saying it's always been broken regardless

Re: Apple Business

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Post by Schiendelman »

dangus wrote: post #450
kube-system wrote: post #341

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> I don't know where this myth has come from that macOS magically uses less RAM even though you are using the same applications as everyone else. Well, you're certainly not running the same code on both systems. Some applications absolutely use less RAM on MacOS... some use less on Windows. Some of this is due to the various builds of the software itself, some of it is due to architectural differences in memory manag…

I agree that it’s usable, but I think it’s still worth pointing out that it was the base configuration of the M1 Air almost 6 full years ago. It feels to me a lot like past cut down systems such as the eMac or that horrendous 21” 1080p Intel iMac that sort of make sense by being cheap but don’t make as much sense in wider context of available choices. Of course, I think the Neo will be a huge success and is a good pr…

In the last six years, the memory footprint of most Mac apps I use has decreased. When Apple Silicon was new, a lot of apps were still running Intel binaries. Now they almost all have native binaries and memory footprint has shrunk quite a bit!

Re: Apple Business

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Post by iknowstuff »

spogbiper wrote: post #423
iknowstuff wrote: post #407

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Multitouch

thats certainly a nicer input method, but is that what you're referring to when you say its an entirely different product?

Wait, were you not there? Did you not see how much the world changed pre vs post iPhone? In 2007 some nerds failed to see the forest for the trees and bitched about MMS but we have 2 decades of hindsight so let’s not. Why are we having this discussion

Re: Apple Business

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Post by spogbiper »

iknowstuff wrote: post #455
spogbiper wrote: post #423

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thats certainly a nicer input method, but is that what you're referring to when you say its an entirely different product?

Wait, were you not there? Did you not see how much the world changed pre vs post iPhone? In 2007 some nerds failed to see the forest for the trees and bitched about MMS but we have 2 decades of hindsight so let’s not. Why are we having this discussion

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Re: Apple Business

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Post by connorgurney »

jedberg wrote: post #421
connorgurney wrote: post #419

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Doesn’t Shared iPad do exactly this?

Yes, but you have to have MDM. I don't want to run MDM for my kids.

Ah, sorry, my bad - assumed you were referring to a business use-case, given the context, but makes sense.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by razakel »

bitwize wrote: post #335
razakel wrote: post #215

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I gave up when it wanted a Dun and Bradstreet number (whoever they are) and the website to get one didn't work.

Dun & Bradstreet is a business credit agency. Having a D-U-N-S number, which they issue, is like table stakes for being taken seriously as a business.

I'd take Dun & Bradstreet seriously if:

- They didn't sell your data to spammers, and

- Their website actually worked

Re: Apple Business

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Post by qmr »

dangus wrote: post #440
qmr wrote: post #345

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... the Yoga doesn't run MacOS though.

Okay? Windows and macOS are basically the same. Only biased fanboy people say otherwise.

Windows has far more spyware, and somewhat worse usability.

It also doesn't run iTerm.

I'm neither biased nor a fanboy.

I used desktop Linux for a decade or more, moved to MacOS for better usability, but it's kind of gone to shit.

Did up a home windows install for some "modern gaming", but disgusted with Microsoft's rapeware tactics.

Might be time to move to Linux again. Already have it on the kids PCs. Seems to run plenty of stuff from Steam just fine.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by xp84 »

robotresearcher wrote: post #318
xp84 wrote: post #303

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Do you have a reason to believe they don’t? We’re not talking about some weird or obscure custom, it’s just basic business ideas.

Apple famously doesn't have conventional business units. https://www.apple.com/careers/pdf/HBR_How_Apple_Is_Organized...

Thanks for this. For someone like me who hasn't worked inside Apple, it's very useful information.
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