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May be they all should embrace "show the other cheek" and the suffering will stop
This is a joke right?
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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car
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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car
#452I am German. My government does not acknowledge the tragedy that has been unfolding in Gaza since the Hamas attack in October 2023. It’s absurd. Since then, Jewish people in Berlin who were demonstrating alongside Palestinians against the war in Gaza have been beaten down by the German police. In 2021, Esther Bejarano, the last survivor of the Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra, passed away in Hamburg. Whenever she commented…
The tragedy in Gaza, the tragedy in Srebrenica, the tragedy in Rwanda? Genocide is the word.
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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car
#453For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…
"The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe." Funny way of saying trying to run someone over.
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wrong Here are only some examples of Israel compromising (land and other) for the sake of peace: 1. Hebron Protocol — 1997 2. Wye River Memorandum — 1998 3. Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum — 1999 4. Gaza Disengagement Plan — 2005 5. Naharayim/Baqura and Tzofar/Ghamr special-regime expiration — 2019 6. Israel-Lebanon Maritime Boundary Agreement — 2022 Those only that were applied, many more offers were rejected by other si…
In all of these situations, settlements continued to be built.
Not correct
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I'm saying this as someone who doesn't really care about this certain topic: Either we allow _all_ political content or nothing. The HN guidelines are incredibly grey and handwave-y >Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. To me HN became to big for its own good sinc…
Banning all political content means banning all mention of open-source software, self-driving cars, anything involving a Big Tech company, anything concerning AI, anything to do with EU or US legislation, anything involving hacking or right to repair, anything about copyright... Ban all politics, and you ban >99% of HN content. Heck, the very concept of HN itself is political!
Only if you twist the definition of politics so much it becomes a pretzel, but sure.
Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car
#456The scale of these atrocities and our governments' support are the reason why this story should be on HN. We elect people who support this, therefore it's only right it follows us and comes up often, even when it's not convenient. That "inconvenience" (skipping a story in HN feed every now and then) is nothing compared to the oppression our democracies support
Also there's barely a tech industry to talk about as our economy collapses through $100 oil and private equity backed destruction of our way of life - what else are we supposed to discuss now - it might as well be Israel.
The US economy will probably be ok. It's an oil exporter and the Apples and Nvidias are thriving.
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Banning all political content means banning all mention of open-source software, self-driving cars, anything involving a Big Tech company, anything concerning AI, anything to do with EU or US legislation, anything involving hacking or right to repair, anything about copyright... Ban all politics, and you ban >99% of HN content. Heck, the very concept of HN itself is political!
Only if you twist the definition of politics so much it becomes a pretzel, but sure.
Politics is how you make decisions collectively. In other words the market is political, LLCs are political, and common rules about how work is licensed is political.
AI is also being used (unfortunately) to make decisions. AI is therefore political (massively so).
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> they cannot think and feel clearly anymore if your neighbours dream constantly about your elimination This is the biggest lie of all. Israeli Jews constantly dream about eliminating the Palestinian people. We talk about it openly and without shame. We discuss pros and cons in terms of security, legality, world public opinion, etc. These are the only considerations. We don’t see any humanity there. We just need thei…
>Israeli Jews constantly dream about eliminating the Palestinian people. We talk about it openly and without shame. We? speak for yourself loser
“ 82 percent of respondents supported the expulsion of Gaza's residents, while 56 percent favored expelling Palestinian citizens of Israel.”
“ Nearly half (47 percent) of respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants."
Israeli society has a very, very strong genocidal current.
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> IDF soldiers Hopefully, such trigger-happy soldiers are in the minority.
They are not. And they are incited by their hierarchy to commit more crimes, because they are not held accountable
I mean, almost entire society participates in (what they believe is the "most moral") military service. It is scary to think folks with murderous tendencies might not be minority.
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The situation in the West Bank (and similar forces are at play in Gaza, too) remind me of what's wrong with American policing, at a far more extreme scale. The people charged with enforcing the peace deploy lethal force with near impunity at the slightest "provocation" (a child throwing a stone, a car driving too fast); I wouldn't be surprised if IDF forces deployed to the West Bank are trained much like American pol…
That's a huge problem (immediate, unjustified escalation to violence becoming the norm) and: > The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. "I feel unsafe" has become the catch-all excuse for everything in the recent decade. It's used to justify everything from Karen complaining about someone's behavior in public to people calling the cops…
> When did "I feel unsafe" become this ultimate i-can-do-anything-and-avoid-responsibility card?
It only works if you deploy it against someone lower-status than you. The tactic is largely irrelevant and can be seamlessly replaced with any of a number of other tactics as needed. It's just enforcement of power hierarchies.