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Re: AirPods Max 2

#451

I really don't understand how these are $549. As others have pointed out, some people say the head band is not great. Others say the sound is solid but not exceptional. What makes these worth that much when there are so many options?

I've tried basically all the noise cancelling headphones. This one has the best noise cancelling. If that's what you care about, you'd buy this.

Re: AirPods Max 2

#452

Wild. I have been eagerly awaiting this refresh, but this doesn't address either of the main issues with the original AirPods Max: 1. Still just as heavy. The AirPods Max sound quite good, but they are very heavy, to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time. This release as the exact same weight as the originals (13.6 oz). 2. Still no off button/position. They stay partial…

Personally the thing that really surprised me about mine was the amount of condense water builds up under the pads when I'm wearing it over a workday.

My noise cancelling started to go flaky until I stumbled upon that - after I've dried it off after every use and stopped using the "case" /store pads separately from headphone things improved a lot again.

It feels like a serious design issue, I'm really confused why so few people talk about it, but I guess it's because most are just casual users of the headphones with people only wearing it a few minutes a day... And the water only really build up when you're wearing it several hours without taking it off

Re: AirPods Max 2

#453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats 386,2 gram for the rest of the world.

386 grams, the extra 0.2 grams is not only irrelevant it's non existent because the process of converting from one measurement standard to another never increases the precision of the measurement. Using 3 digits of precision also avoids being temped to use the rather niche ,2 convention when claiming to embrace a region as large as the rest of the world.

Interesting notion, but how do you know it's 13.6 and not 13.600?

Re: AirPods Max 2

#454

I really don't understand how these are $549. As others have pointed out, some people say the head band is not great. Others say the sound is solid but not exceptional. What makes these worth that much when there are so many options?

They sound incredible (with Apple products), feel super premium, excel at noise cancelling and have really good mics.

I've tried Bose and Sony; in fact, I have two pairs of QC Ultras sitting in their boxes waiting to be sold. Neither sound as good, even after EQing them as close to the Harman curve as their software allows (with Apple products; I haven't tried them with AptX streaming) and both were slower at cancelling noise. The Bose headphones I tried got decent mics after an update, but they are still unreliable at times.

The Maxes are also heavy, but you don't feel it due to its being very nicely distributed across the head. I've seen scores of people run, walk, and work out in these. I even saw a child using them!

I can't stress how premium the Maxes feel. The cups, for example, don't deform even after hours and hours of wear (and sweat). Replacing them is trivial and they attach with magnets instead of adhesive and/or clips. The headphone band is also extremely strong; much stronger than it looks. They feel like $549. Meanwhile, Bose charges $499 for their QuietComfort Ultras with their slow noise cancelling processors (AirPods use Apple Silicon, which is unbeatable atm) and cheap, plastic body (though part of the headphone band has a chrome finish --- premium!)

All this said, Bose and Sony headphones are significantly easier to travel with, and they have power buttons. This was why I sold my AirPods Maxes the first go around (though I went back to them a year later for the reasons stated previously).

Re: AirPods Max 2

#455

Wild. I have been eagerly awaiting this refresh, but this doesn't address either of the main issues with the original AirPods Max: 1. Still just as heavy. The AirPods Max sound quite good, but they are very heavy, to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time. This release as the exact same weight as the originals (13.6 oz). 2. Still no off button/position. They stay partial…

> to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time.

#1 reason I use the Sony XM4/XM6. Sometimes I wonder if they intentionally do this to appeal to a younger crowd cause as an older person with neck issues it’s just not a very good product.

The audio quality of the Sonys is just as good but the comfort is a much better. I think I like the mic on the AirPods Max better but the mic on the MacBook I use in meetings works as well for meetings.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> better sound, better noise cancelling You just casually threw in these claims without backing them up, when it has been proven that the Sony model (and even the others) you listed outperformed the Airpods pro in those exact departments at the time of its launch.

My comment literally also says "Sometimes they just think it is better even if it isn't actually measurably better." I also have "etc" in my first sentence, which may include such things as: a stylish aluminum exterior, bells and whistles such as spatial audio, a more seamless bluetooth connecting experience with Apple devices, and so forth. These do not matter for everyone, but some people clearly care about that. I…

> It seems that you are quite belligerent and trying to pick a fight across many of my comments. Why?

Sorry, this is not the case at all, I am just trying to understand the justification for your original comment on the justification of the price (and quality).

Apologies if it came out too aggressive.

Re: AirPods Max 2

#457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see, I remember checking that they didn’t support high definition wireless codec but missed the part where they could do lossless over the wire last year. Why can’t they squeeze in that codec, considering Pros have it for years and are a lot smaller? Edit: apparently I was confusing AirPods Pros with Sony WH models, which have LDAC. I guess there is no chance Apple adopts LDAC, even in their large heavy cans.

LDAC is also not lossless btw.

At nearly 1000 kbps I think it is close enough for my ear.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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post #452

Wild. I have been eagerly awaiting this refresh, but this doesn't address either of the main issues with the original AirPods Max: 1. Still just as heavy. The AirPods Max sound quite good, but they are very heavy, to the point of being fairly uncomfortable after listening for any longer amount of time. This release as the exact same weight as the originals (13.6 oz). 2. Still no off button/position. They stay partial…

Personally the thing that really surprised me about mine was the amount of condense water builds up under the pads when I'm wearing it over a workday. My noise cancelling started to go flaky until I stumbled upon that - after I've dried it off after every use and stopped using the "case" /store pads separately from headphone things improved a lot again. It feels like a serious design issue, I'm really confused why so…

Yeah, between the weight, no real power‑off, they feel like way too much hassle for something this expensive. Kinda wild that this "refresh" doesn’t really fix any of that

Re: AirPods Max 2

#459

Not to threadjack, but this is a question that I've had for a while and I've been looking for the right forum to ask: are there any "open source" earbuds? I would like to take a pair of earbuds and invert the noise-cancellation curve: basically, amplify any ambient noise (with filtering of course). My grandma (not in the US or EU) is hard of hearing, and the only options available to her are random Chinese junk. I wo…

For what it's worth, Airpods Pro 2 or 3 have a Hearing Aid mode out of the box, but I understand plenty of other earphones out there these days have something equivalent that just can't call itself that because they don't have the clinical certification Apple got.

Re: AirPods Max 2

#460

> Up to 1.5x more Active Noise Cancellation than the previous generation Does that mean 50% better, or 150% better? Sure does look like weasel words.

Yeah, wouldn't this be measured in decibels (dB) of attenuation, not percentages. Percentages of what?

In fairness, I struggle to understand dB as it’s an exponential measurement and I would be on the extreme end of IT technical. Sound engineers might understand dB but a percentage or multiplier is better for most people.

It doesn’t change how iffy the wording is though.

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