Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arabella Advisors is about the farthest thing from MAGA you can imagine.
Sorry, who are they, and what is ATT in this context?
App Tracking Transparency. I first through "AT&T" and then actually realized the acronym.
Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
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#453I have no idea if Meta is driving these, but the only way it would make sense for them to do it is if they saw age-verification as inevitable and would prefer to pass on the costs/liability of implementation to the app store providers. If they didn't see them as inevitable, then it makes no sense for them to be pushing for these as they are fundamentally against their own growth.
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#454I am now waiting for Gruber (daringfireball.net) to post another rant about how terrible EU regulation is. Zero-knowledge proofs are the way to go for this type of thing, I find it mind-boggling that the US lets itself be bamboozled into complete lack of privacy.
No, the way to go is the California way. The device owner (root user) can enter the age of the user. Restrictions are applied based on that. Nothing is verified.
That way should be paired with "adult by default". So that No age data means adult.
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#455I am now waiting for Gruber (daringfireball.net) to post another rant about how terrible EU regulation is. Zero-knowledge proofs are the way to go for this type of thing, I find it mind-boggling that the US lets itself be bamboozled into complete lack of privacy.
Seeming as this affect everyone .. Is there anything like and Open Collective .. grassroots consortium, to put together strong sensible zero-knowledge proof based policy examples that could be given to law-makers instead of this shadowy surveillance Trojan horse nonsense?
The real answer is that there is no solution to the problem other than what basically amounts to better parental controls.
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#456I want to appreciate the fact that the investigation exists, and that someone has made it.
However this is the kind of investigation that Reddit is famous for, which ends up causing more harm than good, like the Boston bombing investigation.
Age verification, for example, is coming no matter what - there’s a big enough chunk of voters tired of tech globally.
Governments are also tired of dealing with tech and want to bring them to heel.
These macro forces are far more significant than the amounts identified on lobbying in this investigation (~$63 mn iirc)
Given the title, the reading of the article implies Meta is driving age verification.
The content of the investigation, reads more as meta taking advantage of the push for age verification to move it to the OS layers.
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#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Give your interlocutor an explicit alternative to consumer activism! Just because you're a pessimist doesn't mean you have to be coy. :)
Protesting, voting, and civil disobedience. At the end of the day, this stuff is headed by humans. Humans are fragile, weak even. They like silly things like food and safety. Look, I'm not saying we need to be killing people. However, I AM saying that just about every single significant rights progression in human history was achieved that way. So, draw whatever conclusions you want. Ideally, we are above that. Chris…
> Protesting, voting, and civil disobedience.
Protesting, voting, and civil disobedience are all great, I agree.
Guy with the root of "pessimism" in his moniker: start writing about that in your posts!
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#458Just ban lobby groups. Politicians are public servants, not corporate servants.
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#459Man if the EU made GDPR a 45M+ user platform thing most of the issues with it would've gone away.
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#460> the sponsor of Louisiana's HB-570, publicly confirmed that a Meta lobbyist brought the legislative language directly to her. The bill as drafted required only app stores (Apple, Google) to verify user ages. It did not require social media platforms to do anything.
Thing is, when these “make the websites collect your ID” proposals come up, the overwhelming sentiment here is “this is terrible and we need to do it lower in the stack”. I think the OS is a better place than the website. (Let security conscious folks use a standalone device too if desired.)
The astroturfing stuff is obviously sus, I don’t have a feel for whether this is egregious by the standards of $T companies or just par.
Of course, the EU option of using proper ZK proofs etc sounds way better as portrayed in the OP. But when you actually dig in, doesn’t the EU effectively mandate OS support too, eg https://eudi.dev/1.7.1/architecture-and-reference-framework-..., https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-doc-archi... ? Maybe this isn’t set yet but it seems a likely direction at least.