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Post by dcder1 »

Israel => 2.7 bil dollars per week, that is roughly 0.4 bil per day (from news) US => 60 mil per day just operations (from news). Likely around 0.1 bil per day, or more. World => 80 mil barrels oil/day x 10 dollars = 0.8 bil per day (from news), on the increase.

5 days of war generated at least 6.5 bil dollars in cost !!! The majority of which is paid by every human on the planet :-)

The results include the killing of an 86 year old man who had cancer, about 150 school girls, some 40 radical idiots and various by-standers.

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Post by hereme888 »

hypeatei wrote: post #446
hereme888 wrote: post #445

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I did not miss any points. You are uninformed. Iran was less than a month away from having a viable nuke, and they've been swearing to use it against America and Israel for the past 47 years. In the last set of negotiations, Iran refused to rule out building the nuke. That's the official information, and if you think they're lying, you have no alternative sources of trustworthy information besides terrorist-aligned i…

> Iran was less than a month away from having a viable nuke Oh, I see, you've bought the propaganda that Iran is close to a nuke. That's been the scare tactic for decades. Did you already forget the strike we did on their nuclear facilities months ago that supposedly set them back? There was no justification for this war, the official US position is that we needed to get involved because Israel striked first and Iran…

Again, you are misinformed. The nuclear capabilities were real. They had secretly moved facilities and those struck by the US were a detriment but didn't hinder development. The attacks were unsuccessful at their primary objective, per all official information.

But there's no argument against someone who thinks everything is a conspiracy. You will always come up with a creative argument, however false it may be.

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Post by TiredOfLife »

bawolff wrote: post #4

Wouldn't some of these costs be present either way? Without a war US would still have aircraft carriers, they would just be floating somewhere else. On the other side, it seems like this is not tracking interceptor costs (presumably due to it being classified), which have certainly been used extensively and are extremely expensive. For that matter i doubt we have a very clear picture of how much ordinance has been us…

Also NATO requires a certain percentage of GDP to be spent.

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Post by stackbutterflow »

ajross wrote: post #360
throwaw12 wrote: post #358

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red team was against endless wars in Middle East, red team specifically elected Trump to be America first and to stop all wars. if it was indeed about domestic policies, why promises were not held given to the "team"?

Sorry, no. The republican party of the last three-quarter-century has been consistently and reliably pro-American-exceptionalism. That the republican power structures backed a candidate who claimed not to believe these things is interesting, but it happened because they believed, CORRECTLY, that he was lying about this. [1] There has been no significant realignment of US geopolitical positioning between the parties,…

Sometimes the divide feels like it's between people who vote based on what people say and people who vote based on the actions and track records of the candidates.

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Post by gravisultra »

ajross wrote: post #448
gravisultra wrote: post #402

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I'm talking about the majority position, not minority.

So, no, you're not. Or you're misunderstanding how this works. "Stop the war in Iran" is a majority position in polls . People don't vote on that, because people don't care about the war in Iran. Instead, wars at the ballot box are fought over which ethnicity needs to be the target of state violence, or whether or not it's a good thing for citizens to have health care. And those wars are serious, and hard-fought, and…

> "Stop the war in Iran" is a majority position in polls. People don't vote on that, because people don't care about the war in Iran.

This is simply incorrect and pure wishful thinking on your part.

> You are just in a minority, and this is what being in a minority feels like.

Once again, I'm in the majority. The majority of people do not support Israel or the war against Iran.

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Post by Hikikomori »

antonkochubey wrote: post #287
readitalready wrote: post #266

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There is no moral justification for Israel's right to exist. Israel does not have a right to exist. They exist purely as a foreign invasion force originally started by European Jews - who didn't even practice or believe in Judaism - in order to make their own private racist mediterranean resort state by killing the native people and stealing their land. What makes you think anyone would want support their existence o…

I wonder if perhaps something has happened to European Jews in the 1930s that made them look for a place to re-settle

The Holocaust made them think that lebensraum is a good idea?

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Post by Hikikomori »

flyinglizard wrote: post #255
chmod775 wrote: post #207

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> values align with those of the US Some values those are. Yikes.

More chances than not that you live in a country that benefitted from the American propensity to do the right thing, even at a huge cost to itself. Yes we have a different and more selfish America now, but all said, America still protects the world order that allows this conversation to exist.

For Iran the wrong th8ing they did was to stop giving all oil profits to others.

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Post by richardfeynman »

incognition wrote: post #408
richardfeynman wrote: post #392

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Well, just in the past two months, iran is thought to have killed more than 30,000 of its own citizens, while the whole civilian death toll in gaza is about 40k or less over more than two years (out of roughly 70k killed), so i'd say you just made that up.

Demographics: Approximately 70% of the 70k verified fatalities are women and children. International observers, including the OHCHR, have noted that children alone account for roughly 33-44% of the death toll.

Your information is false and out of date.

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Post by Hikikomori »

mhb wrote: post #442
krisoft wrote: post #201

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> maybe consider why Iran spent over $500B developing offensive nuclear weapons. To protect themselves from the exact scenairo happening right now? The reason why Putin is sleeping peacefully in his bed while Khamenei is dead under rubble is that one has nuclear deterent while the other din't have that protection. > supposed aggressor I don’t know if there is anything “supposed” about that aggressor given the present…

Right. Because Israel is finally fulfilling its aspiration to annex a country 1,000 miles away. Do you think history started two days ago? Maybe the Israelis are idiots, but it would seem so much more practical to attack closer countries first - Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc. I wonder why they aren't?

Iraq and Iran has been netanyahus goal for 4 decades. Remember him lying to congress about wmd as the Iraq invasion started.

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Post by danny_codes »

DarmokJalad1701 wrote: post #209
danny_codes wrote: post #166

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Universal healthcare is cheaper than our system of healthcare by a factor of 2 (comparing other OECD countries). If we raised taxes and implemented universal healthcare we’d save about $1T a year. Cost isn’t the relevant factor, it’s politics. Or more accurately, naked bribery that we, for some insane reason, call “lobbying”.

> If we raised taxes and implemented universal healthcare we’d save about $1T a year If it saves $1T, then why does it require raising taxes?

Healthcare Spending in the US is split across private and public expenditure. Under universal healthcare the public would pay more, but net spending would decrease.
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