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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by user3939382 »

h05sz487b wrote: post #375
user3939382 wrote: post #169

I actually don’t want a smartphone anymore. The first iPhone was fun, the new one is creepy. I survived for many years without it, I think I can do it.

What, if any, mobile phone are you using instead? Even if I would not miss all the features I do not find these feature phone companies more trustworthy. Some are in bed with AdTech companies. Less features does not necessarily mean less tracking.

It’s a nightmare regardless. There’s no trustworthy hardware either, or at least very little. Maybe I’ll build a SIP client from an FPGA.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by pmontra »

u1hcw9nx wrote: post #424
carefree-bob wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…

It's not an obsession. Its calculation. They noticed bigger phones lead to customers buying more services and apps.

Is that the direction of causality or it's the other way around? Maybe people buy larger screens because they want to watch Netflix or TikTok on their phone more comfortably than on smaller screens. I do love small and light phones (an A40 right now) but I watch movies on a tablet. If I were often on the move or sharing home with many people, maybe I would use a larger phone.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by hbs18 »

majewsky wrote: post #414
brightbeige wrote: post #395

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I have a pet theory about increasing phone sizes > Screen size is area (x^2) and battery size is volume (x^3). As battery life is a critical feature, a bigger screen supports (a nonlinear) better battery life. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44588733

This does not square with especially Apple's unending obsession to make phones as thin as possible. Which is doubly stupid when it makes them so fragile that the first thing you do after taking it out of the box is to wrap it in a thick rubber shell.

What obsession about making thin phones? iPhones are pretty thick and have been that way for years. The Air being an outlier, of course, but it's an intentionally thin phone in a lineup of thick and heavy ones.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by microtonal »

ho_schi wrote: post #397

No compact smartphone. Apples MBAs produce just more slight variants of the same phone. The Google Pixel 10a is superior, same chassis with flat camera. The Pixel 10 doesn’t suffer a camera bump. At least a step in the right direction.

It's a bit of a shame that the 10a introduction price was pretty much the same as the Pixel 10 by that time. The Pixel 10 has a much better SoC and PixelSnap.

10a will be worth it when the price drops down to 350 Euro.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by brookst »

lente wrote: post #442
alabhyajindal wrote: post #419

I wonder if the Small Android Phone project has moved forward since the last time it was posted here: https://smallandroidphone.com

I just signed up on their site and got a mail with the following info: "To catch you up: We’ve been hard at work over the summer building out a team and searching the globe for a manufacturer to build our dream phone. It’s been a slow process, but we’re nearing completion and expect to be able to kick off this project very soon. Once we have a manufacturer locked in, we will be reaching out with a full update on the…

Guess they’re southern hemisphere?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by ubermonkey »

Interesting but ultimately still not my upgrade target.

I'm on a 14 Pro. It's fine -- plus, it's been replaced twice under AppleCare. Once was a Lightning jack failure, but the second was when it fell off my motorcycle mount and got run over back in October. (Amazingly, the phone part worked fine, but the mishap ruined the camera lenses.)

The upshot is that I have a phone that's only a few months old, and see almost no compelling reason to upgrade to anything else. It _would_ be nice to have USB-C, but that's not worth hundreds of dollars to me. And it also appears there are aspects of the 17e that aren't as nice as my 14 Pro, so ...

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by brookst »

carefree-bob wrote: post #365
danielvaughn wrote: post #61

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…

Apple follows the market. There just aren’t many people who want small phones, HN notwithstanding. If they sold like hotcakes they’d have a full lineup.

And I kind of get it. Philosophically I want a small phone. Realities of age and eyesight forbid.

The market is basically people who don’t read or watch videos on their phone, and who have excellent eyesight, and who don’t care about having the best cameras. 100% legit market segment, but that Venn intersection is too small to be worth it.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by randusername »

calebm wrote: post #185
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

I've still got my 12 mini. Just got a new battery replacement too. Back in my day, phones were cooler if they were smaller.

My iPhone 12 mini is hobbling along. A few rare apps are not usable because UI is clipped, the battery is throttling and making it sluggish, and it overheats all the time as a GPS.

Many mobile websites are unusable.

But I love the form factor and I'm going to keep it going as long as it is reasonably secure.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

slaw wrote: post #55
joezydeco wrote: post #18

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So is Mercedes-Benz. But they don't sell a $20,000 commuter car.

Mercedes-Benz sells commuter cars in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_A-Class

Last time I was in the Ruhr (okay 20 years ago), C-classes were used as taxi cabs. So basically equivalent to a caprice classic in the US.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by tclancy »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #361
the_overseer wrote: post #269

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No. It doesn't sell. You so called mini buyers never showed up except in forums making a lot of pointless noise. If you understand anything about how businesses work you would understand how useless your comment is.

I’m sure they showed up, but if you compare to the entire market size it’s a small size like maybe 10%. They should have calibrated their expectations, but they didn’t. Also the battery life on them aren’t as good as the regular.

Hmmph, well fine then. Use that foldable phone technology everyone else apparently wants to give me a "normal" phone I can fold in half. Now everyone's happy!
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