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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by ekianjo »

sekai wrote: post #123
r721 wrote: post #77

Feb 25: >White House officials believe ‘the politics are a lot better’ if Israel strikes Iran first >As the administration mulls military action in Iran, officials argue it’d be best if Israel makes the first move. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/25/white-house-politic...

Just now: Trump: "The lives of American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties - that often happens in war." Another republican president starting a war in the middle east, once again sacrificing American lives.

You forgot the Obama wars for some reason?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by Revanche1367 »

bojan wrote: post #287
athrowaway3z wrote: post #41

I have to wonder how much of this is driven by Israel accounting for the risk of less favorable US relationship in the future. Pre-emptive violence; not even justified with a narrative of escalating threat. Bleak for anybody who knows their history.

Those who know their history also know that the current American administration is of a kind that usually ascends following the rules, but then never voluntarily leaves power. So I don't think Israel has anything to fear there.

Not only the current administration, no US administration in the recent past or foreseeable future will not be okay with fighting wars for Israel at the cost of American lives and wealth. Some might hesitate or push back more than others, but the end result is the same.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by heresie-dabord »

sekai wrote: post #123
r721 wrote: post #77

Feb 25: >White House officials believe ‘the politics are a lot better’ if Israel strikes Iran first >As the administration mulls military action in Iran, officials argue it’d be best if Israel makes the first move. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/25/white-house-politic...

Just now: Trump: "The lives of American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties - that often happens in war." Another republican president starting a war in the middle east, once again sacrificing American lives.

Trump is calling them heroes now. But we know what he really thinks: "suckers and losers".

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-con...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by bcxdxc65 »

papaver-somnamb wrote: post #328

I recall someone (name escapes me at the moment) defining WW3 as ignition in 5 flashpoints between belligerent groupings: - Eastern Africa esp. Sudan, which we all nearly universally ignore - Israel Iran - Russia and a neighbor which we know today is Ukraine - Pakistan Afghanistan India - China Taiwan Plus Plus Attributes that distinguish WW3 from previous world wars were IIRC: Contained conflagration, short targeted…

We are not heading into WW 3. Those old rich men you worry about have to pay a much higher price in cash for their illusions of control. And that reduces what harm and how long wars can run. Keep an eye on what the markets tell everyone on Monday.

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Post by philk10 »

tgv wrote: post #424
alex_low wrote: post #382

I'm surprised this has not been mentioned, for context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

I think that's because nobody believes for one second that these strikes are a retaliation for that.

Epstein files and plummeting poll numbers are more likely reasons

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by philk10 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #435
yodsanklai wrote: post #396

Nothing like a war to boost your popularity just before the elections

> Nothing like a war to boost your popularity just before the elections If he pulls off a regime change, even a Delcy-style swaparoo, he'll get it, and arguably not undeservedly. It will ultimately come down to Iran's capacity to inflict casualties on American forces.

somehow I dont think regime change is gonna happen before the midterms or even before 2028

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Post by croes »

0x600613 wrote: post #324

2 countries with the best war technologies on earth must work together to have a war with embargod-country-for-decades. And those 2 counties are founder of Board of Peace.

To obliterate a nuclear program that they claimed was totally obliterated last year

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Post by yyyk »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Being attacked should rule out 'war of aggression', but I guess the phrase seems to have lost any meaning in modern discourse. Apparently you can spend all the time calling 'death to X' and then get shocked when others take you seriously.
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