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I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by notpushkin »

JimDabell wrote: post #433
wolvoleo wrote: post #165

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Yes I notice that too. I hide my last name now because at my company it's just firstname.lastname so easy to guess. It helps a lot but I still get a lot of sales goons. A lot of them follow up constantly too "hey what about that meeting invite I sent you why did you not attend"? My deleted email box is full of them (I instantly block them the minute I get an invite to anything from someone I don't know, and I wish Ou…

Put an emoji after your name in LinkedIn. Something that obviously isn’t part of your name. All the bots that scrape LinkedIn and guess your email address will include the emoji when addressing you in an email; no humans will. You can then use this in a spam filter.

I think it would be fairly easy to clean up. It should help with the dumbest spammers though.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by notpushkin »

ljm wrote: post #157
Spooky23 wrote: post #70

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My assumption was that it was an intelligence platform first. Just like Skype, Microsoft decided to randomly buy it. It amazing really. If you reached out to people and asked them for the information and graph that LinkedIn maintains, most employers would fire them.

There's an entire cottage industry of linkedin scrapers that put a lot of effort into guessing your email address to enable cold outreach. I'm ashamed to say I worked at one such place for several months. Apollo is probably the most comprehensive source for this. It's creepy as fuck.

I’m a bit on the fence with this one. Sure, spam is bad, but they also enable you to reach out to somebody outside of the LinkedIn’s walled garden (personally, without automation).

If it enables a tiny startup trying to solve the exact problem I have to reach out to me – I’d say it’s a net positive (but not by a huge margin), and having to blacklist @mongodb.com with their certifications bullshit is a price I’m ready to pay. If more spammers get their hands on this kind of dataset though it’ll probably be a disaster.

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Post by register »

foxglacier wrote: post #435
register wrote: post #193

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Here's another JD Vance who doesn't understand what international rules are and justifies that with (lack of) innovation Below you can find the relevant GDPR excerpt. But before that, let me add to the coment below that US companies only comply with what EU institutions can enforce and what suits them; which is normal, since China does the same. Well, it couldn’t have been said better: in fact, we’re beginning to vie…

Is LinkedIn established in a place where Member State law applies? I guess not? You can't just go around pretending your law applies to people in other countries because none of the necessary institutions in those countries will respect your law.

The GDPR applies to the personal data of individuals in the European Union, regardless of where the data is processed. You can easily find the relevant law online.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by bambax »

I've been maintaining a fake LinkedIn profile for over 10 years (in addition to the real one). It has a significant amount of connections (people with the "open to work" badge tend to accept connection requests from total strangers).

This fake profile often receives offers from recruiters; it's quite fun.

I wonder if I could get it verified using a fake passport photo? I'd try it but I'm afraid of being found out and losing it.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by torginus »

aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

My favourite 'thing' in the modern world is that 'we don't process and store your data' has taken to mean - 'we don't process and store your data - our partner does'.

Which might not even be stated explicitly, it might be that they just move it somewhere and then pass it on again, at which point its outside the legal jurisdiction of your country's ability to enforce data protection measures.

Even if such a scheme is not legal, the fact that your data moves through multiple countries with different data protection measures, enforcing your rights seems basically impossible.

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Post by po1nt »

danpritch wrote: post #370
po1nt wrote: post #352

>Count them. 17 companies. 16 in the United States. 1 in Canada. Zero in the EU. We regulated innovation out of the market. Why are you surprises that the only companies finding your data valuable are in the US?

Maybe it's just me but I don't count tracking people as innovation. Tell me what's innovative about it.

Tracking people is dystopian. But only collection of data allowed us to train the AI. I don't think EU has issues with tracking people unless a private party does it.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by Delk »

godelski wrote: post #383
wholinator2 wrote: post #356

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I'm not an expert but i imagine bio data being much less exact than a password. Hashes work on passwords because you can be sure that only the exact date would allow entry, but something like a face scan or fingerprint is never _exactly_ the same. One major tenant that makes hashes secure is that changing any singlw bit of input changes the entirety of the output. So hashes will by definition never allow the fuzzy au…

I'd assume they'd use something akin to a perceptual hash. Btw, hashes aren't unique. I really do mean that an input doesn't have a unique output. If f(x)=y then there is some z such that f(z)=y. Remember, a hash is a "one way function". It isn't invertible (that would defeat the purpose!). It is a surjective function. Meaning that reversing the function results in a non-unique output. In the hash style you're thinki…

> Remember, a hash is a "one way function". It isn't invertible (that would defeat the purpose!). It is a surjective function. Meaning that reversing the function results in a non-unique output.

This is a bit of a nitpick and not even relevant to the topic, but that's not the reason cryptographic hashes are (assumed to be) one-way functions. You could in principle have a function f: X -> Y that's not invertible but for which the set of every x that give a particular y could be tractably computed given y. In that case f would not be a one-way function in the computational sense.

Cryptographic hashes are practically treated as one-way functions because the inverse computation would take an intractable amount of time.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by gib444 »

foxglacier wrote: post #437
gib444 wrote: post #377

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> Victim mentality Oh please.

He's right though. Blaming someone else for your own failures is victim mentality - regardless of whether they really are the cause or not. Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was, by making itself strong and capable instead of accepting helplessness which is victim mentality.

I will not take the bait. We all know the meaning of victim of mentality and know it doesn't apply in this discussion.
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