I think it would be a mistake to reject Matrix outright. Even if it's not perfect, it would still be a good starting point from which to build something better. Besides, you don't have to replace Discord with the perfect solution, just with something that's better than Discord and where there's no company behind it that can steer it in a negative direction again, as happened with Discord.
Discord Alternatives, Ranked
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#452I think it would be a mistake to reject Matrix outright. Even if it's not perfect, it would still be a good starting point from which to build something better. Besides, you don't have to replace Discord with the perfect solution, just with something that's better than Discord and where there's no company behind it that can steer it in a negative direction again, as happened with Discord.
>just with something that's better than Discord
I mean, that's the entire issue. There's very little tangibly better than Discord. I like the idea of Matrix, but it's complete garbage in practice.
At least for now, the solution lies more in mass outrage and action rather than any technological migration. The post raises this and I think it's a good point.
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#453I think it would be a mistake to reject Matrix outright. Even if it's not perfect, it would still be a good starting point from which to build something better. Besides, you don't have to replace Discord with the perfect solution, just with something that's better than Discord and where there's no company behind it that can steer it in a negative direction again, as happened with Discord.
>just with something that's better than Discord I mean, that's the entire issue. There's very little tangibly better than Discord. I like the idea of Matrix, but it's complete garbage in practice. At least for now, the solution lies more in mass outrage and action rather than any technological migration. The post raises this and I think it's a good point.
Also, the fetishism for federation has got to stop. It's only barely workable in asynchronous environments like the Fediverse, but on a live chat service it's ruinous. It's feels like it's half of what's suffocating Matrix.
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#454The Telegram drop off for doing something really bad recently? I have not seen a single person mention it as an alternative. I don't really use discord that much except for the few friends I have that are not on telegram. Actually all of my family and friends are on telegram, even my grandmother is on telegram. When playing games with friends we just do a group call in telegram. I don't even see it on this list thoug…
Isn’t Telegram at least plausibly a tool of Russian surveillance? My understanding was that its attempts to distance itself from the regime were laughable and only made the relationship more obvious. I think that’s why it’s rarely mentioned.
I mean, discord is a tool of US surveillance and I’m a Lot more worried about that government doing something to me given Russia is ten thousand miles away
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#455What about SimpleX? Is it good? Did somebody try it?
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#456What about SimpleX? Is it good? Did somebody try it?
It's basically a replacement for SMS, not anything near what Discord does.
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#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
>just with something that's better than Discord I mean, that's the entire issue. There's very little tangibly better than Discord. I like the idea of Matrix, but it's complete garbage in practice. At least for now, the solution lies more in mass outrage and action rather than any technological migration. The post raises this and I think it's a good point.
Also, the fetishism for federation has got to stop . It's only barely workable in asynchronous environments like the Fediverse, but on a live chat service it's ruinous. It's feels like it's half of what's suffocating Matrix.
IDK, XMPP group chats have always "jest werked" for me (though admittedly I haven't used them much).
The difference between XMPP group chats and Matrix group chats is that Matrix servers replicate all the message history, whereas XMPP group chats are hosted on a single server. IMO the "bring your own account to a central server" model of XMPP is a good thing, but the "replicate all the things" model of Matrix is not.
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#458Why are Zulip and Mattermost not considered here? To be clear I am a former Mattermost user who would no longer recommend them, but considering Zulip now as a replacement
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#459Why are Zulip and Mattermost not considered here? To be clear I am a former Mattermost user who would no longer recommend them, but considering Zulip now as a replacement
Maybe they are not for furries?
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#460My community (30 members or so) of hackers switched to Matrix last October because we were expecting draconian policy which would attempt to unmask and chronicle our members identities and sentiments. We now spend more than we did with Discord but the data sovereignty is worth it. Not a plug per se, but we host our international community members content out of Germany using federated.computer.
In recent days people have been coming out of the woodwork trying to join again.