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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by WalterBright »

autoexec wrote: post #387
WalterBright wrote: post #350

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> mandate required voting I don't see how forcing a person to vote will result in carefully considering what to vote for. A right to vote includes the right to not vote.

> A right to vote includes the right to not vote. Then add an abstain option to the ballot while still requiring people to show up and select the box. While I do think voting should be mandatory, I'd say that we should make it substantially easier. More polling places, mail in voting, having a mandated paid day off to vote and having more than one day to vote in person would go a long way to making the requirement wo…

Forcing people to the polling place doesn't sound like a free society. Nor does it auger for any positive votes - people forced into something don't behave well. You'll get perverse voting.

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Post by tigrezno »

bhawks wrote: post #366

The only logical end of this is that they should ban 3d printers and cnc mills to unlicensed individuals. Which, is probably the goal. Things like 3d printers, drones, GPUs, general purpose computers, vpns, encryption, talking to people in private and the like are far too dangerous for the citizenry to be allowed to do without appropriate oversight and approval.

you can buy every individual component and build it yourself, it's absurd (I did some years ago)

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Post by djmips »

nemomarx wrote: post #256
PlatoIsADisease wrote: post #223

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I remember ~10 or 15 years ago, I had concerns about drones becoming illegal due to FAA. I was assured by the internet, I was paranoid, blah blah safety... Then a few weeks ago something about Minnesota and ICE making drones illegal to fly or something... The weird part is that, in that 15 years, I've become more moderate and pro-democratic rule of law... but I was right about my previous concerns. Not that I believe…

I guess it was a predictable outreach from the Patriot act - the new justification is flying drones "over a mission" from the border people, and they claim a lot of territory for their missions, right?

It's my understanding that they are no longer the border people as Trump extended their reach to every square inch of the USA

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Post by mrheosuper »

throw3e98 wrote: post #378
Gigachad wrote: post #374

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In countries that ban guns, 3D printers don't help much because you still can't get the other parts that aren't printed and you can't get bullets. 3D printed guns are only really viable in places where guns are already common.

> because you still can't get the other parts that aren't printed Every part except the firing pin is now printable (you can print quite strong carbon-fiber reinforced parts at home). The firing pin can be made from a nail or similar piece of metal. > You can't get bullets Bullets are mostly easy enough to make. One of my neighbors growing up was a competitive shooter who competed nationally and internationally. He m…

In my country, Guns and Bullets are heavily controlled(Even airsoft is banned here). You can not get explosive unless you prove you have legit use for it(usually for mining). And of course DIY gun or bullet is no-no and you will be jailed.

Even in police force or army, they literally count every single bullet, and for every fired bullet, it must be explained in detail.

Maybe that's why we have low gun-related crime here.

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Post by Kerrick »

bhawks wrote: post #366

The only logical end of this is that they should ban 3d printers and cnc mills to unlicensed individuals. Which, is probably the goal. Things like 3d printers, drones, GPUs, general purpose computers, vpns, encryption, talking to people in private and the like are far too dangerous for the citizenry to be allowed to do without appropriate oversight and approval.

> To prohibit a great people, however, from making all that they can of every part of their own produce, or from employing their stock and industry in the way that they judge most advantageous to themselves, is a manifest violation of the most sacred rights of mankind.

The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith, 1776

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Post by lostlogin »

reverius42 wrote: post #424
thayne wrote: post #394

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That doesn't change the fact that the majority of Americans didn't vote for Trump. In fact, the majority of people who did vote didn't vote for Trump. Yes, he won the "popular vote", but that just means he got more votes than anyone else, not more than half of the votes.

I think he actually did get more than half the votes this time. "Staying home" is not actually a vote, as much as people want it to be in their heart of hearts. edit: sorry, I was wrong, he did not quite clear 50% -- looked it up and he got 49.8%.

The measure that interests me os the percentage of eligible voters that picked Trump - 31.6%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States...

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Post by hahahahhaah »

rolph wrote: post #398
kart23 wrote: post #248

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it’s illegal to make a gun for personal use without a serial number in ny and ca. https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consu...

theres a procedural problem with this, and its apparently why the feds dont require serial number on a PMF until FFL transfer is about to occur when should you be required to serialize it? if you serialize after it is worked to the point of being a firearm, then there is a period in time, however short, when the firearm is unserialized, thus illegal, thus serializing after creation could be obscuring a crime. vs seri…

Not really. You can just register prior. If hunk of metal doesn't become a gun do nothing.

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Post by delaminator »

int_19h wrote: post #389
sheepscreek wrote: post #300

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Yep. Democracy is working according to a non-minority in the country. Agree to disagree?

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Good job no-one has elected any fascists then
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