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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
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#453This felt like a sane and useful case until you mentioned the access to bank account side. I just don't see a reason to allow OpenClaw to make purchases for you, it doesn't feel like something that a LLM should have access to. What happens if you accidentally end up adding a new compromised skill? Or it purchases you running shoes, but due to a prompt injection sends it through a fake website? Everything else can be…
What if... that whole post is written by AI, and the express intent of the post is to sand down our natural instincts for security, making it easier for malskill devs to take advantage?
Then it's done a horrible job! As all I could think was surely you're not making the efficiency gain you state.
It's similiar to back when Notion second brain templates became popular, there was a level at which you went - surely it's just going to be a full time job to manage this single complicated template?
Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
#454This felt like a sane and useful case until you mentioned the access to bank account side. I just don't see a reason to allow OpenClaw to make purchases for you, it doesn't feel like something that a LLM should have access to. What happens if you accidentally end up adding a new compromised skill? Or it purchases you running shoes, but due to a prompt injection sends it through a fake website? Everything else can be…
>OpenClaw to make purchases for you But don't you want the agents to book vacations and do the shopping for you!!?! Though it would be nice if "deep research" could do the hard work of separating signal from the noise in terms of finding good quality products. But unfortunately that requires being extremely skeptical of everything written on the web and actively trying to suss out the ownership and supply chain invol…
Yeah - and honestly, i'll probably use a agent like openclaw to do stuff like find flights, villas, find a good timing between X and Y date, get it formatted as a table and validate the websites.
Then, I can commit to the checkout process, which isn't that much labour.
Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
#455- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…
> Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have?
I have ADHD, I forget where I put things down 5 seconds ago and I forget what's in my fridge all the time. It's genuinely a big problem for me because I let things expire, buy things I already have, and just accumulate cruft that necessitates a big fridge clean once every few months which makes me feel bad about all the things I'm throwing away.
In an ideal world I want an up to date inventory on everything that's in my fridge with expiration reminders. I'd love for someone to solve this problem in a non-tedious way. Taking pictures of everything would indeed be tedious.
Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
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(Disclaimer: systems software developer with 30+ years experience) I was initially overly optimistic about AI and embraced it fully. I tried using it on multiple projects - and while the initial results were impressive, I quickly burned my fingers as I got it more and more integrated with my workflow. I tried all the things, last year. This year, I'm being a lot more conservative about it. Now .. I don't pay for it -…
This week Adobe decided, out of nowhere, to kill their 2D animation product (Animate, which is based on Flash) to focus on AI. I'm already seeing animators post that Adobe killed their entire career. Although that feels a bit exaggerated, I feel it's not far from the truth. If there were, say, 3 closed source animation software that could do professional animation in total, and they just all decided to just kill the…
Yes, exactly. I feel that AI is only useful in the hands of humans who understand the domain they're applying it to...
Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
#457If you're on MS stack, this is all stuff that MS 365 Copilot will already do for you, but with much better defined barriers around what it can and cant access.
This is the first positive thing I have heard about copilot. You’ve found it genuinely capable?
Yes, if you work somewhere that is paying for the right add-ons, it can access all your stuff (messages, calendar, email, documents) and sythesise that all into helpful stuff like 'what am I supposed to be doing today?', 'what did I do last week (so I can fill in my timesheet)', what happened in that meeting I missed, etc. Under the hood its using whatever OpenAIs latest model is.
Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
#458This felt like a sane and useful case until you mentioned the access to bank account side. I just don't see a reason to allow OpenClaw to make purchases for you, it doesn't feel like something that a LLM should have access to. What happens if you accidentally end up adding a new compromised skill? Or it purchases you running shoes, but due to a prompt injection sends it through a fake website? Everything else can be…
You could give it access to a limited budget and review its spending periodically. Then it can make annoying mistakes but it's not going to drain your bank account or anything.
I almost feel like the amount of effort required to set up a seperate limited budget bank account and review spending periodically is equivalent to just going to a link to checkout
But I may be a lazy engineer, I definitely go by the if you do it once, don't automate, do it twice, automate approach
Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In the morning I typically check my work calendar, my personal calendar, the shared family calendar, and the kids' various school calendars. It would be convenient to have these aggregated. (Copying events or sending new events to all of the calendars works well until I forget and one slips through the cracks...) But... calendar apps already let you aggregate your calendars into a single view. Even if you have them…
> you can easily share a read-only version of, say, your work calendar with your personal account so that you can have them combined in the morning. If only it was that easy! I'm not allowed to share content to or from my work calendar for security reasons. The school and camp calendars are a mix of PDFs and hand-written websites -- a neighbor wrote a scraper to extract the information from a few of them into a calda…
It honestly tempting to point a camera at my workstation so AI can "watch over my shoulder" while I'm working on systems that are pointlessly excessively locked down.
I don't do, but it is tempting, and I bet people will do it.
Too much security makes people seek insecure workarounds...
Or to quote Star Wars, “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers”.
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Ever since the Matrix, id assumed its more likely humans will put themselves in the Matrix than theyd actually explore the universe. Theyre equally complex challenges but the physics of large time/space are just outside human patience. Also, if the neo nazis are in charge another round of inhumane testing will occur.
I get why it is romantic (like the "next thing" after other human discoveries), but I don't think "exploring the universe" is that philosophically interesting? Think about the case you had (1) A completely environmentally-resistant suit (so you can stand on the surface of basically any planet) (2) A teleporter to take you absolutely anywhere instantly Still in this case, you'd probably spend a while visiting new plan…
>I'm really excited about conquering hunger, poverty and curing severe mental illness, as a counterpoint.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to interest anyone with money and political influence.