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The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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I used to work with a Kevin and a Mohammed. Whenever we travelled to offsite offices Mohammed 100% of the time was picked for bag check, while Kevin was not picked once. Mohammed was white, and Kevin was black. It was completely racist, and never random.

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They didn't know he was white when they picked him from the list.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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What states do you have to pay for your Real ID every time? Yes, you have to pay to renew your license or photo ID, but the Real ID fee in my state (PA) is one-time. Renewal costs are the same whether it's a Real ID or not.

California would be one, because they issue Real IDs to non-citizens that are tied to their documentation, which needs to be reviewed each time.

to add, fee for Real ID marker on Limited Term license covers 5 years, so if one gets lets say a license for 2 years (& had to pay for 5 years), the next renewals/updates within those 5 years are free.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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This article seems oddly hung up on the legality of providing ID. That’s all well and fine, but airlines have the discretion to refuse to board passengers, including for potential security risks. So yeah, there are no laws saying you have to provide ID , but that doesn’t mean you’ll get to board the plane.

Common carriers can refuse to board you for legitimate reasons. Not having ID is not one of those as far as I know. (Obviously international travel is an entirely different beast. That's neither here nor there.)

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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> Yes, because the federal government can't assume that everyone has an ID, since they don't issue a universal ID. I'm from a 3rd world country and we have a national id, the usa is weird in the strangest things.

Among the man weird corners of US national ID politics, is the set of Americans who think a national ID is an unforgivable invasion of liberty but that an ID should be required to vote.

That sort of makes sense though? It's the minimal level of government involvement required. Presumably you can't carry out a fair election without some form of gatekeeping. Whereas why exactly should ID be required to do mundane daily things including traveling long distances?

That said I'm generally fine with the current voting laws and don't see any need to increase scrutiny. But all states have at least some level of verification to get added to the voter rolls.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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I used to work with a Kevin and a Mohammed. Whenever we travelled to offsite offices Mohammed 100% of the time was picked for bag check, while Kevin was not picked once. Mohammed was white, and Kevin was black. It was completely racist, and never random.

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An Irish man tries to enter the bar but is denied entry.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #412

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Washington gave me a non real-ID driver's license in November 2025. I don't plan on upgrading it unless forced to since I also have a passport.

Get a passport card or a Global entry card .. easier to carry on you for domestic travel.

> easier to carry on you for domestic travel.

But I shouldn't have to. That's the issue here. I shouldn't need an ID of any sort. I shouldn't need to provide my name or date of birth. Either I have weapons or dangerous substances on me or I don't. That's all that should matter.

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #370

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I had the option to get a "Real ID" the last time I renewed my driver's license, and did not. I forget which stupid bit of paper gave me trouble, but I had a valid passport (the Mother of All IDs), which was both insufficient to get a "Real ID" and sufficient to fly. It's a joke, a nuisance, and now a revenue source.

You're not going to believe it, but if you already have a passport - you don't need Real ID (in ideal world). I only got Real ID because I want to have zero questions about my immigration status.

>You're not going to believe it, but if you already have a passport - you don't need Real ID (in ideal world). I only got Real ID because I want to have zero questions about my immigration status.

DHS says they don't consider RealID to be reliable "proof" of immigration status[0][1], so you might consider rethinking that strategy.

[0] https://www.biometricupdate.com/202601/dhs-agent-tells-court...

[1] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.alsd.76...

Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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post #358

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> The TSA was NEVER about security. It was designed as a jobs program and make it look like we were doing something for security. To a great extent, it is security, even if it's mostly security theater, in the sense that it is security theater that people want . A large portion, maybe even the majority, of travelers simply won't feel safe without it. I've had and overheard multiple conversations at the airport where…

It is mostly security, but not to residents of the country. Those can enforce their rights. In my country, I can argue with airport security, and win. Foreigners can’t, so they follow whatever rules. A few times when landing in the US, security was extremely rude, I think just looking for an excuse (things like throwing your laptop a few feet away, while staring at you, etc). You take it bc you’re not home, and the c…

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Re: The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal

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It's hilarious how transparent a money grab this entire thing is. "You need to show a Real ID for security, otherwise how do we know you won't hijack the plane?" "Well I don't have a Real ID." "Ok then, give us $45 and you can go through." So it was never about security at all then, was it? And don't get me started with all the paid express security lanes. Because of course only poor people can weaponize shoes and la…

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