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Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by cush »

sandytoast wrote: post #437
cush wrote: post #372

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I'll bite 1. Have a user interface. Sometimes I'll ask a question and Siri actually provides a good enough answer, and while I'm reading it, the Siri response window just disappears. Siri is this modal popup with no history, no App, and no UI at all really. Siri doesn't have a user interface, and it should have one so that I can go back to sessions and resume them or reference them later and interact with Siri in mor…

Isn’t its voice the ui? It should respond using the same context of the request. Voice and natural language. If you ask for a website it should open a browser. Edit: everything else spot on

> Isn’t its voice the ui? It should respond using the same context of the request. Voice and natural language.

Yeah it’s an interesting idea, but visuals are required sometimes. Even the simple task of “List the highest rated Mexican restaurants near me” works perfectly well enough with old crappy Siri. You’ll get a list of the highest rated Mexican restaurants near you. But as soon as you open the first restaurant, Siri closes and the list is gone. You can’t view the second restaurant. To get the list back you need to ask Siri again.

There’s no world in which that user experience makes a viable product. It’s a completely broken user experience no matter how smart the Gemini model is.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by alanning »

cush wrote: post #372
baxtr wrote: post #289

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What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

I'll bite 1. Have a user interface. Sometimes I'll ask a question and Siri actually provides a good enough answer, and while I'm reading it, the Siri response window just disappears. Siri is this modal popup with no history, no App, and no UI at all really. Siri doesn't have a user interface, and it should have one so that I can go back to sessions and resume them or reference them later and interact with Siri in mor…

My wife and I got a kick out of your “Games at Dave's house” example. Thanks for sharing

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by ethbr1 »

akoboldfrying wrote: post #444
taspeotis wrote: post #435

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Could it just fucking work? "Hey Siri turn on the [room name] room lights" and it gives me a positive chime and ... doesn't turn any lights on? In any of my rooms?

Judging by another comment, it probably turned the lights on in a restaurant in a different country.

Somewhere deep inside your iPhone, an LED is toggling.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by hosh »

chankstein38 wrote: post #275
eastbound wrote: post #245

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Ollama! Why didn’t they just run Ollama and a public model! They’ve kept the last 10 years with a Siri who doesn’t know any contact named Chronometer only to require the best in class LLM?

The other day I was trying to navigate to a Costco in my car. So I opened google maps on Android Auto on the screen in my car and pressed the search box. My car won't allow me to type even while parked... so I have to speak to the Google Voice Assistant. I was in the map search, so I just said "Costco" and it said "I can't help with that right now, please try again later" or something of the sort. I tried a couple mo…

I have been getting great results with Gemini 3 Deep Think, though I am not using it as my personal assistant.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by fragmede »

krferriter wrote: post #411
baxtr wrote: post #289

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What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

I'm sorry, I can't answer that right now. Would you like to click this button which takes what you said and executes it as a Google search in Safari?

Now playing You're Missing, by Bruce Springsteen on Apple Music

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by narrator »

I always said that Apple does not have the cloud GPU power to deliver a good AI experience to their huge customer base, no matter how good their developers are. They have to find someone with a lot of GPUs that can handle the workload, and that's Google.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by eastbound »

woah wrote: post #319
chankstein38 wrote: post #275

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The other day I was trying to navigate to a Costco in my car. So I opened google maps on Android Auto on the screen in my car and pressed the search box. My car won't allow me to type even while parked... so I have to speak to the Google Voice Assistant. I was in the map search, so I just said "Costco" and it said "I can't help with that right now, please try again later" or something of the sort. I tried a couple mo…

Siri on my Apple Home will default to turning off all the lights in the kitchen if it misunderstands anything. Much hilarity ensues

Would be worse if it turned off your car.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by ulfw »

cush wrote: post #159
Workaccount2 wrote: post #58

If nothing else, this was likely driven by Google being the most stable of the AI labs. Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product. Also for Apple, they know their provider has ridiculously deep pockets, a good understanding and infrastructure in place for large enterprises, and a fairly diversified revenue stream. Going with An…

> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.

Well it ain't coming now either if it's just Gemini, is it?

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by Mistletoe »

taspeotis wrote: post #435
baxtr wrote: post #289

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What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?

Could it just fucking work? "Hey Siri turn on the [room name] room lights" and it gives me a positive chime and ... doesn't turn any lights on? In any of my rooms?

Apple’s insistence on not ever displaying error messages is infuriating.
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