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Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by gsf_emergency_6 »

aebtebeten wrote: post #438
gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pedantry: most foreigners don't speak Cantonese in HQB https://youtu.be/RTftU-8tkJc?t=16m34s

thanks! I hadn't been thinking retail though; I'd been thinking of people who were studying a language in order to signal that they were both interested in and committed to cultivating 关系 before exploring wholesale possibilities. Wouldn't cantonese help with that? After all, languages are accomplishments, not acquisitions: you can't just buy spoken facility, you have to earn it through study and practice. Or am I mis…

In theory, and certainly that's how some rationalize it. In practice, compradores are the most sought after.. in the old days, some of those guys were fluent in English, but maybe the Judeo-Christian vibes* were just as relevant. As in retail VC, where lack of schlep-tolerance is a red-flag (https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BA%A2%E6%97%97L5#/media/Fi...), so lack of interest in the details of the better life you're pursuing => ..?

Yes 清真 is the sinicization

3. Front men are also in demand.. different vibes expected of these (outer party?)

*https://youtu.be/nryXhiKdwi0

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by gsf_emergency_6 »

aebtebeten wrote: post #437
gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

soviet mil was a representative slice of soviet demographics. US civilian enforcers: not so much. (Elsewhen- the antiVW movement "worked" because the same was true of the US mil) That's mostly it I think. Edit- "anti-Kissinger" movement

I know/knew people who marched first in the CR and then in the antiVW movement. One important piece of advice from their experiences: have plenty of people during your peaceful demonstration who are ready, willing, and able to eject provocateurs from your midst. A related lesson from Airstrip One: just because someone is sleeping with you doesn't mean they're not an informant. Of course, if all you're doing is peacef…

Reminds me of..

(The site may be triggering..)

"Grothendieck got angry when they started pestering him. Justine recalled in an interview with Allyn Jackson: “The next thing we know, the two policemen are on the ground.” Grothendieck, who once practiced boxing, had single-handedly decked two police officers."

You had a chance here to disambiguate the strategy :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46530990

It's luck for everyone that the Latin side of classics is ideologically less controversial (+fertile in symbolism)??

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by aebtebeten »

gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #452
aebtebeten wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know/knew people who marched first in the CR and then in the antiVW movement. One important piece of advice from their experiences: have plenty of people during your peaceful demonstration who are ready, willing, and able to eject provocateurs from your midst. A related lesson from Airstrip One: just because someone is sleeping with you doesn't mean they're not an informant. Of course, if all you're doing is peacef…

Reminds me of.. (The site may be triggering..) "Grothendieck got angry when they started pestering him. Justine recalled in an interview with Allyn Jackson: “The next thing we know, the two policemen are on the ground.” Grothendieck, who once practiced boxing, had single-handedly decked two police officers." You had a chance here to disambiguate the strategy :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46530990 It's luck…

> the Latin side of classics

Tiberius Epstein?

> The site may be triggering.

Indeed. It's a much older generation, but we have our share of immigrants from DZ as well.

Lucky for mathematics that the Avignon policiers were not accustomed to "self defence make me a sandwich"!

Someday I'll have to learn enough about sheaves to see if they can handle your cut from no-cut, where an initial commonality bifurcates into 有人理想 and 有人富翁.

I guess a classical explanation might be:

  人之初，性本善。
  性相近，習相遠。
but maybe Linebarger can have the last word:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~...

> ...if the door is left open to voluntary conversion, so that anyone who wants to can come over to the winning side, the winning side will sooner or later convert almost everyone who is capable of making trouble. (In the language of Vilfredo Pareto, this would probably be termed "capture of the rising elite"; in the language of present-day Marxists, this would be described as "utilization of potential leadership cadres from historically superseded classes"; in the language of practical politics, it means "cut in the smart boys from the opposition, so that they can't set up a racket of their own.")

(also https://www.gutenberg.org/files/48612/48612-h/48612-h.htm#:~... )

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by general1465 »

TrackerFF wrote: post #252
pu_pe wrote: post #2

> If the EU repeals Article 6 of the Copyright Directive, some smart geeks in Finland could reverse-engineer Apple's bootloaders and make a hardware dongle that jailbreaks phones so that they can use alternative app stores Apple could easily block this, and in the situation described here of a complete rupture with the US, they would no longer operate and sell phones in the EU. If Google decided to do the same, that…

Well, two issues here: 1) The moment US decides to completely exit EU and brick their devices, China will step in and provide the alternatives. Or it will trigger some tech arms race inside Europe, and we will see European providers rise up. 2) US Tech companies can't afford to pull out. They might do some short-lived performative black-outs to show European customers how dependent they are, and they will for sure ru…

> 2) US Tech companies can't afford to pull out. They might do some short-lived performative black-outs to show European customers how dependent they are, and they will for sure run to the government, who in turn will start trade wars. But in the end they simply can't afford to just pull out completely.

Yep, case and point is current situation in Russia, where US companies "pulled" out due to sanctions, but not really.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by general1465 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #340
twixfel wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, by 2027, the Russian gas imports will stop altogether.

At which point new pipelines from Siberia to China and India will likely be finished (if they aren't already)

Russia does not really want to build pipelines to China, because China would just tell Russia what it is willing to pay, take it or leave it. And it is definitelly not going to be market price.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by gsf_emergency_6 »

aebtebeten wrote: post #454
gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of.. (The site may be triggering..) "Grothendieck got angry when they started pestering him. Justine recalled in an interview with Allyn Jackson: “The next thing we know, the two policemen are on the ground.” Grothendieck, who once practiced boxing, had single-handedly decked two police officers." You had a chance here to disambiguate the strategy :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46530990 It's luck…

> the Latin side of classics Tiberius Epstein? > The site may be triggering. Indeed. It's a much older generation, but we have our share of immigrants from DZ as well. Lucky for mathematics that the Avignon policiers were not accustomed to "self defence make me a sandwich"! Someday I'll have to learn enough about sheaves to see if they can handle your cut from no-cut, where an initial commonality bifurcates into 有人理想…

Ah Chapter 7

Maybe Cordwainer's take can be updated.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46532760

Rival ideological systems with their own pyramid schemes. High switching costs. So there you have fsckboi(?) knifing an MD(?) across the gap. While the winning side is...?

>Certain very elementary appeals can be made almost without reference to the personal everyday background ("cultural-historical milieu") of the person addressed

HN flamewars beg to differ.. (I note that ouestrous-prop would almost certainly flail)

Sleeping with informant (?): https://youtu.be/nryXhiKdwi0?t=4m43s

(Bonus ref to Santi/"tunneler")

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by aebtebeten »

gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #451
aebtebeten wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thanks! I hadn't been thinking retail though; I'd been thinking of people who were studying a language in order to signal that they were both interested in and committed to cultivating 关系 before exploring wholesale possibilities. Wouldn't cantonese help with that? After all, languages are accomplishments, not acquisitions: you can't just buy spoken facility, you have to earn it through study and practice. Or am I mis…

In theory, and certainly that's how some rationalize it. In practice, compradores are the most sought after.. in the old days, some of those guys were fluent in English, but maybe the Judeo-Christian vibes* were just as relevant. As in retail VC, where lack of schlep-tolerance is a red-flag ( https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BA%A2%E6%97%97L5#/media/Fi... ), so lack of interest in the details of the better life you'r…

Front men? You mean like when Erik Prince was playing token gweilo for CITIC group?

(At least Prince, however much his attitude may resemble Mr. Twister's, is aware the rest of the world exists. I haven't read any of the Hunger Games, but according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Games#:~:text=It%20... , despite the author's background [did she always live on base, never on the economy?], nothing beyond the lower 48 is a thing. As a contrast, Harry Potter is not at all solipsistic: it mentions about three dozen countries beyond its main setting.)

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Mv6gXqADM

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Post by aebtebeten »

gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #457
aebtebeten wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the Latin side of classics Tiberius Epstein? > The site may be triggering. Indeed. It's a much older generation, but we have our share of immigrants from DZ as well. Lucky for mathematics that the Avignon policiers were not accustomed to "self defence make me a sandwich"! Someday I'll have to learn enough about sheaves to see if they can handle your cut from no-cut, where an initial commonality bifurcates into 有人理想…

Ah Chapter 7 Maybe Cordwainer's take can be updated. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46532760 Rival ideological systems with their own pyramid schemes. High switching costs. So there you have fsckboi(?) knifing an MD(?) across the gap. While the winning side is...? > Certain very elementary appeals can be made almost without reference to the personal everyday background ("cultural-historical milieu") of the pers…

flamewars (here as in persia) have the "former yugoslavia" dynamic, which is the opposite of his aims (unless in "black" form?). IIRC there's a bit in there where the radio/wire service equivalent is discussed as a strong temptation, which serious practitioners must take care to avoid.

(an example of high vs mid: in an anecdote from the 談談 part of the V 打打, the principal [high] mentions his capitalist counterparts directly, with bare names, but his translator [mid] felt the need to "correct" his names by throwing in all the usual epithets "running dog", "oppressor", etc., etc. into the english translation. This habit of "improvement" was not lost upon her counterparts, who later relayed it as an example of what not to do)

off to do atoms stuff; more tomorrow...

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