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Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by zamadatix »

whoknowsidont wrote: post #445
NaOH wrote: post #182

I'm taking a moment to recognize once more the work that user @atdrummond (Alex Thomas Drummond) did for a couple years to help others here. I did not know him, don’t think I ever interacted with him, and I did not benefit from his generosity, but I admired his kindness. Just beautiful. Ask HN: Who needs holiday help? (Follow up thread) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38706167 - Dec 2023 (9 comments) Ask HN: W…

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Can you help share more of how we can know more about these claims? The only thing I could find related to this was https://x.com/jaredlholt/status/1757799398707188046 and the replies don't add any clarity to understanding what is real and what is not. I'm not saying that's all there is, just that I don't know how to find more and figure out one way or the other what is up where.

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

whoknowsidont wrote: post #445
NaOH wrote: post #182

I'm taking a moment to recognize once more the work that user @atdrummond (Alex Thomas Drummond) did for a couple years to help others here. I did not know him, don’t think I ever interacted with him, and I did not benefit from his generosity, but I admired his kindness. Just beautiful. Ask HN: Who needs holiday help? (Follow up thread) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38706167 - Dec 2023 (9 comments) Ask HN: W…

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Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by whoknowsidont »

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #452
whoknowsidont wrote: post #445

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Nick Fuentes is a vocal proponent of genocide and actively mocks the holocaust.

If think otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. It comes straight from the horse's mouth.

Use your vitriol towards Nazi's, or yourself. Either is probably deserved at this point.

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by whoknowsidont »

zamadatix wrote: post #451
whoknowsidont wrote: post #445

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Can you help share more of how we can know more about these claims? The only thing I could find related to this was https://x.com/jaredlholt/status/1757799398707188046 and the replies don't add any clarity to understanding what is real and what is not. I'm not saying that's all there is, just that I don't know how to find more and figure out one way or the other what is up where.

I don't know how to find superchat history, but honestly you can just peruse his own twitter here: https://x.com/ATDrummond

The guy has had a long running reputation on this site. Which is why he decided to add this to his profile:

>here from hacker news? don’t be a creep

And by creep, he of course means "don't call me out for advocating for genocide."

His last post is even out right decrying ANY type of immigration, and his second post is being critical of Israel. And mind you, not because of any "normal" sociopolitical commentary, but simply because Israel = Jews and "Jews are bad."

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by zamadatix »

whoknowsidont wrote: post #455
zamadatix wrote: post #451

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Can you help share more of how we can know more about these claims? The only thing I could find related to this was https://x.com/jaredlholt/status/1757799398707188046 and the replies don't add any clarity to understanding what is real and what is not. I'm not saying that's all there is, just that I don't know how to find more and figure out one way or the other what is up where.

I don't know how to find superchat history, but honestly you can just peruse his own twitter here: https://x.com/ATDrummond The guy has had a long running reputation on this site. Which is why he decided to add this to his profile: >here from hacker news? don’t be a creep And by creep, he of course means "don't call me out for advocating for genocide." His last post is even out right decrying ANY type of immigration,…

Thanks, I don't use Twitter/X so it would have taken me a while to figure out how to see the content of the posts (gee thanks X for requiring login to see most things properly!)

Knowing this, I managed to find 2 additional things which help strengthen this connection as not just being some random twitter account with a matching name:

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38840473 where it doesn't actually link to the Twitter to see what the content is but he doesn't bother denying he'd have a Twitter account that could be taken that way.

- https://archive.ph/pJqzD where someone acknowledges they interacted with the account knowing it was really him as part of sharing their discovery of the news.

Much thanks, I would never have thought to look for such an unhinged Twitter account for a seemingly above average HN user being praised long after his death.

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by whoknowsidont »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #245
NaOH wrote: post #182

I'm taking a moment to recognize once more the work that user @atdrummond (Alex Thomas Drummond) did for a couple years to help others here. I did not know him, don’t think I ever interacted with him, and I did not benefit from his generosity, but I admired his kindness. Just beautiful. Ask HN: Who needs holiday help? (Follow up thread) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38706167 - Dec 2023 (9 comments) Ask HN: W…

I remember this awesome guy’s posts but didn’t know he’d passed. Thank you for posting this.

He wasn't awesome he was a literal Nazi, through and through.

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by whoknowsidont »

zamadatix wrote: post #456
whoknowsidont wrote: post #455

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I don't know how to find superchat history, but honestly you can just peruse his own twitter here: https://x.com/ATDrummond The guy has had a long running reputation on this site. Which is why he decided to add this to his profile: >here from hacker news? don’t be a creep And by creep, he of course means "don't call me out for advocating for genocide." His last post is even out right decrying ANY type of immigration,…

Thanks, I don't use Twitter/X so it would have taken me a while to figure out how to see the content of the posts (gee thanks X for requiring login to see most things properly!) Knowing this, I managed to find 2 additional things which help strengthen this connection as not just being some random twitter account with a matching name: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38840473 where it doesn't actually link to th…

Yeah, I understand it's seemingly hard to reconcile. And without revealing other aspects of my identity I can say his posts on Twitter and here do not reveal the extent of his views.

He played this site well. I'll leave it at that.

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by aidenn0 »

whoknowsidont wrote: post #457
tailspin2019 wrote: post #245

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I remember this awesome guy’s posts but didn’t know he’d passed. Thank you for posting this.

He wasn't awesome he was a literal Nazi, through and through.

I don't know what atdrummond's political views were, and after your comment, I still don't know.

The label "literal Nazi" has become not particularly useful recently.

At best, it seems to be used to mean that the person in question agrees with one or more of:

"I think Hitler was awesome"

"We need to stop letting poor people into our country"

"Gee London was a lot better when it was whiter"

"I think we should forcibly sterilize everybody with an IQ under 85"

"I keep a copy of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion under my bed"

"I will always use he/him when referring to trans women"

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At worst the label is applied for much more prosaic reasons.

One can be racist, or a Eugenicist, or a white supremacist, or an anti-Semite, or transphobic without being a Nazi, and those terms are all far more descriptive than "Nazi," so are more informative.

Re: Tell HN: Merry Christmas

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Post by silisili »

generic92034 wrote: post #337
silisili wrote: post #324

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Nobody is perfect. I wish we'd stop trying to find reasons to hate everyone who is celebrated, or we'll never celebrate anyone.

Maybe then do not celebrate a person, but celebrate the good actions of any person.

But that's basically what we do. We learn about Lincoln, Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, MLK, etc for what good they did.

Then someone eventually figures out they did or said some wrongthink by today's standards and tell us those people should be hated because they messed up.

But the kicker is we never once learned about nor celebrated said wrongthink. We celebrated the best in people... and I think that should continue.

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