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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by famahar »

I watched an interesting video about how the look of cinema has changed dramatically with the advent of green screen sets, CG, VFX, and a move away from large scale on-location scenes. This feels like we're inching towards a new era of cinema that has lost its charm in being real. Maybe I'm just getting old and this is what everyone seems to like (or can't relate to the charm of older cinema from the 90s).

https://youtu.be/tvwPKBXEOKE?si=EYdu543vJlAjdX5c

Another thought I had. Is there no desire to make a modern film that still intentionally looks like an old Pixar film. Less poly. Simpler lighting. No fancy physics effects. In the same way PS1 graphics are popular now.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by throwaway17_17 »

badc0ffee wrote: post #401
venturecruelty wrote: post #389

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I mean, Disney can do basically whatever it wants and nothing will change. If my gay, Muslim friends are still willing to patronize the parks, despite their very real disagreement with how Disney conducts its business, then what hope is there for the exhausted, overworked mom whose child won't stop wailing about watching Frozen ? This will absolutely tarnish the brand, and yet people will still consume Disney slop.

> If my gay, Muslim friends are still willing to patronize the parks, despite their very real disagreement with how Disney conducts its business What is this referring to?

Disney has a long history of donating large dollars to ultra-conservative legislators and presidential hopefuls (they also donate to liberal candidates as well). As for the Muslim portion, it’s most likely due to Disney donating $2 million to Israeli Non-profits and condemning terrorism while making no statements or donations to the Palestinian people’s or groups that attempt to provide to the Palestinian people Israel was bombing in the closing months of 2023. The BDS movement has and keeps Disney on their list of boycott targets to this day.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by DANmode »

Thrymr wrote: post #445
DANmode wrote: post #441

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Could you elaborate? Do you mean to say they’ll never take the payment?

What are the terms? It is not at all clear from the announcement. "part of this three-year licensing agreement", it _could_ mean the license cost is $1 billion, which Disney in turn invests in OpenAI in return for equity, and they're calling it "investment" (that's what's hypothesized above, but I don't think we know). Disney surely gets something for the license other than the privilege of buying $1 billion in OpenA…

Yeah - they save face.

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Post by btown »

famahar wrote: post #451

I watched an interesting video about how the look of cinema has changed dramatically with the advent of green screen sets, CG, VFX, and a move away from large scale on-location scenes. This feels like we're inching towards a new era of cinema that has lost its charm in being real. Maybe I'm just getting old and this is what everyone seems to like (or can't relate to the charm of older cinema from the 90s). https://yo…

To add to that (extremely thought-provoking) video, I do think that the Marvel model of "pre-viz everything to death, the edit's already done before filming begins" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgvgi3ShcmY - can lose a lot of spontaneity. Perhaps the fading luster to Marvel films overall will bring us back from this place.

On a more tangential note around green screens and their limitations when used ubiquitously, Corridor Digital's quasi-rediscovery of the Sodium Vapor process used by Disney through the early '80s, but lost to history ever since, is a fantastic watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQuIVsNzqDk

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Post by irishcoffee »

famahar wrote: post #451

I watched an interesting video about how the look of cinema has changed dramatically with the advent of green screen sets, CG, VFX, and a move away from large scale on-location scenes. This feels like we're inching towards a new era of cinema that has lost its charm in being real. Maybe I'm just getting old and this is what everyone seems to like (or can't relate to the charm of older cinema from the 90s). https://yo…

There a ton of indie video games that march to the beat of that drum. “Oldschool” graphics, more about gameplay/story. I imagine there is a market for this.

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Post by irishcoffee »

nish__ wrote: post #437
irishcoffee wrote: post #408

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Yeah, he’s a sociopath

He's taking from Disney and Microsoft though so I see no moral issues.

What if he’s wrong? He doesn’t care.

It could however, be pretty fucking shitty for the US/World economy.

He don’t care.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by strogonoff »

“In other words, Glazier doesn't want these lawsuits to get rid of Midjourney and protect creative workers from the threat of AI – he just wants the AI companies to pay the media companies to make the products that his clients will use to destroy creators' livelihoods. He wants there to be a new copyright that allows creators to decide whether their work can be used to train AI models, and then he wants that right transferred to media companies who will sell it to AI companies in a bid to stop paying artists ”

https://pluralistic.net/2025/11/18/im-not-bad/

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by nish__ »

DANmode wrote: post #442
nish__ wrote: post #437

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He's taking from Disney and Microsoft though so I see no moral issues.

Who does Disney and Microsoft get their money from? Groups like this aren’t singular entities.

Americans mostly. Both abuse copyright law to profit off of works done by creators/inventors of the past. Neither contribute much to humanity these days.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by nish__ »

irishcoffee wrote: post #456
nish__ wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's taking from Disney and Microsoft though so I see no moral issues.

What if he’s wrong? He doesn’t care. It could however, be pretty fucking shitty for the US/World economy. He don’t care.

What if who's wrong? Sam? If right means turning a profit, he's most certainly wrong. It would be a very stupid investment to give money to him but it turns out there no shortage of dumb money. Can't blame the guy for taking money people are literally throwing at him. If you know anything about the guy he has no interest in business or profit. He just wants to create AGI. Mostly out of curiosity it seems.
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