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How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by immibis »

breppp wrote: post #308
immibis wrote: post #115

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Can you explain what happened to Hind Rajab? She was the five year old girl who was the only survivor of a missile attack and managed to call emergency services, and so humanitarians called up Israel and agreed to clear a specific path where they wouldn't be shot so they could save the little girl, and they drove a van with a big red cross painted on top on that exact route, and when they got to the little girl and g…

I don't know, people are very persistent about this specific incidence. If I understand correctly this is a family that drove around tanks and were shot as something that unfortunately happens around live active war zones. Your depiction of "precise aerial bombing" is wrong Let's say for the sake of argument the tank crew did not shoot due to fog of war but did out of malice, what would that prove except a single cri…

They were hit by a precision guided missile not a tank. Because it was precision guided, it hit exactly where it was aimed. Which happened to be the exact coordinates Israel was told there would be medics saving a little girl.

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Post by dragontamer »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #408
dragontamer wrote: post #371

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Well yeah. No one is saying that China cannot do that. Just that the political calculus is that it's better for China to spend their resources on that, rather than building up troops and warships. Force Chinas growth to be more expensive. It has nothing to do with not believing China can do it, it's about slowing them down in a task we believe that they can do.

> Just that the political calculus is that it's better for China to spend their resources on that, rather than building up troops and warships. Note that this calculus only makes sense if you invade China while they are busy with the EUV machines, otherwise they catch up technologically and then build all the scary military. Of course, the the calculus doesn't make sense at all, because the obvious order when you can…

Their plan was to buy those chips and equipment and have the troops/ships/weapons sooner.

Now China has to build EUV themselves, then mass produce chips. It slows them down regardless and costs them resources.

Cut off the market before it becomes a problem.

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Militarily, delaying China into 2040s after the USA has stealth destroyers of our own (beginning production in late 2020s, mass production in the 2030s) means China has to fight vs 2030s era tech instead of our 1980s era Arleigh Burke DDGs.

What, do you want to have the fight in late 2020s or would you rather have the war in late 2030s? There is a huge difference and USAs production schedule cannot change. But we can change Chinas production schedule.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by arw0n »

beloch wrote: post #348
general1465 wrote: post #238

The more USA is going to use this leaver, the likely they will make this leaver useless in the future. Like with China, when they overused chips leaver which stunted China for a while, but eventually gave them a way to establish their own chip industry. Now that leaver is becoming effectively useless. It will ends up same with EU.

It's directly analogous to China issuing export bans. They tried this with critical minerals. Critical minerals aren't actually all that uncommon. They just weren't being actively extracted in most places. Now many extraction projects are starting to roll around the globe because it has become clear China was willing to use access to them as leverage. My guess is that China will be highly reluctant to restrict export…

It is not equivalent. Rare earths are, as you say, not actually that rare, but they are still a finite resource, and the CCP quite publicly discussed that it isn't a good idea to sell their domestic stockpile internationally while a significant amount of their economy runs on it. They raised prices to factor in that future availability might be more important than short-term profit.

The chip ban on the other hand is about R&D and labor, both things that do not diminish over time. Instead, the ban seeks to slow down Chinese advancement in areas relying on those chips, AI in particular. Both measures will lead to short-term issues, long-term lost growth, and mid-term new industries in the respective countries/markets.

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Post by jenadine »

wang_li wrote: post #407
embedding-shape wrote: post #369

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Both Cuba and Russia are literal neighbors to the US, it doesn't get closer than that. Cuba is like 150km from the coast of Florida, and Russia is even closer than that to the US!

You're just randomly creating new positions to argue about because why? There is no factual way in which whatever point you are trying to make holds true re. Russia/Cuba to the US is less than Russia/Ukraine to the EU & NATO. Kaliningrad literally shares borders with Poland and Lithuania. 0 km is the smallest distance possible. Russia and Ukraine both border EU and NATO countries.

Russia shares borders with Norway, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Poland which are NATO.

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Post by gold72 »

What a terrible site.

Had to go into settings, manually reject each kind of cookie, and then there's no way to confirm, just a way to go back to the first page, and nothing to click but "accept", which seems to imply that you'll end up taking all the cookies anyway. In the end I just closed the tab without reading.

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Post by dredmorbius »

thenaturalist wrote: post #294
dang wrote: post #149

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. This topic is divisive and the thread has quite a few comments on the wrong side of the line, but yours stands out as particularly bad, and you've been doing it in other threads as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45813701 https://new…

It would be really, really great when the open Israel hate and borderline Antisemitism displayed in many threads related to these topics could be moderated to the same tune. It's the same hate that has killed Jewish Americans in the past year. Many of these replies are very low on facts, very high on emotionally loaded subjective opinions. It's a challenging task as BBC and so many more Western media outlets had to r…

HN mods act on behaviour rather than position.

If someone's violating HN's guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html>) or FAQ (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html>), flag the post or comment. Both links are found at the bottom of most HN pages. If there's an egregious violation, email mods at hn@ycombinator.com.

Most moderation (that is, votes and flags) are by members of the site, mods step in very rarely, usually guided by flags or emails as noted above. Member actions may well be driven by factors differing from those of mods, part of the moderators' job is to correct for those biases.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by KK7NIL »

immibis wrote: post #447
KK7NIL wrote: post #446

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If each node provides a 10-15% improvement in power, performance and area, how many of those need to compound until your already uncompetitive 7 nm is 10x less efficient, slower and more expensive?

Being behind doesn't mean they're permanently stuck where they are today - but aren't our processes running into the wall of soon trying to make transistors smaller than an atom?

> Being behind doesn't mean they're permanently stuck where they are today

Without EUV, they very much are.

> but aren't our processes running into the wall of soon trying to make transistors smaller than an atom?

No, the finest pitches are still in the low double digit nanometers in 2 nm processes. The "2 nm" nomenclature hasn't denoted a physical dimension for decades.

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Post by mh- »

Lapsa wrote: post #423
wat10000 wrote: post #365

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I wonder where people get these ideas. The Budapest Memorandum is very short, it'll take five minutes to read if you want to know what was actually agreed. It seems like people just sort of imagine what they would have agreed to, and run with it.

thank you, will take a closer look. overheard it from whatever talk. ain't easy to fact check everything

It's pretty easy to avoid repeating unverified things, though.

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Post by enaaem »

general1465 wrote: post #238

The more USA is going to use this leaver, the likely they will make this leaver useless in the future. Like with China, when they overused chips leaver which stunted China for a while, but eventually gave them a way to establish their own chip industry. Now that leaver is becoming effectively useless. It will ends up same with EU.

Tech is often a winner takes all market, but this will go out of the window if it is seen as a national security issue.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by kkkqkqkqkqlqlql »

aDyslecticCrow wrote: post #19
pfdietz wrote: post #12

Ultimately this sources back to Europe being dependent on the US for defense.

How is is defence relevant in this article? This is abusing of the private sector monopoly of alot of internet infrastructure. Nothing of this is military in nature.

> Nothing of this is military in nature.

Sure... Until Trump says it is.

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