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Re: Nano Banana Pro

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If it's just the API you're interested in, Fal.ai has put Nano-Banana-Pro up for both generative and editing. A great deal less annoying to sign up for them since they're a pretty generalized provider of lots of AI related models. https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro

There's the solution right there. Google is still growing its AI "sea legs". They've turned the ship around on a dime and things are still a little janky. Truly a "startup mode" pivot. While we're on this subject of "Google has been stomping around like Godzilla", this is a nice place to state that I think the tide of AI is turning and the new battle lines are starting to appear. Google looks like it's going to lay w…

We can't help but overreact to every new adjustment on the leader boards. I don't think we're quite used to products in other industries gaining and losing advantage so quickly.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Alright results are in! I've re-run all my editing based adherence related prompts through Nano Banana Pro. NB Pro managed to successfully pass SHRDLU, the M&M Van Halen test (as verified independently by Simon), and the Scorpio street test - all of which the original NB failed. Model results 1. Nano Banana Pro: 10 / 12 2. Seedream4: 9 / 12 3. Nano Banana: 7 / 12 4. Qwen Image Edit: 6 / 12 https://genai-showdown.spec…

Would you leave one of the originals in each test visible at all times (a control) so that I can see the final image(s) that I'm considering and the original image at the same time?

I guess if you do that then maybe you don't need the cool sliders anymore?

Anyway - thanks so much for all your hard work on this. A very interesting study!

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First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

The new releases this week baited me into business ultra subscription. Sadly it’s totally useless for gemini 3 cli and now also nano banana does not work. Just wow.

I bought a Pro subscription (or the lowest tier paid plan, whatever it's called), and the fact that I had to fill out a Google Form in order to request access to get Gemini 3 CLI is an absolute joke. I'm not even a developer, I'm a UX guy who just likes playing around with seeing how models deal with importing Figma screens and turn them into a working website. Their customer experience is shockingly awful, worse than OpenAI and Anthropic.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's just the API you're interested in, Fal.ai has put Nano-Banana-Pro up for both generative and editing. A great deal less annoying to sign up for them since they're a pretty generalized provider of lots of AI related models. https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro

There's the solution right there. Google is still growing its AI "sea legs". They've turned the ship around on a dime and things are still a little janky. Truly a "startup mode" pivot. While we're on this subject of "Google has been stomping around like Godzilla", this is a nice place to state that I think the tide of AI is turning and the new battle lines are starting to appear. Google looks like it's going to lay w…

This is also my take on the market, although I also thought it looked like they were going to win 2 years ago too.

> How are we feeling about Google putting everyone out of work and owning the future? It's starting to feel that way to me.

Not great, but if one company or nation is going to come out on top in AI then every other realistic alternative at the moment is worse than Google.

OpenAI, Microsoft, Facebook/Meta, and X all have worse track records on ethics. Similarly for Russia, China, or the OPEC nations. Several of the European democracies would be reasonable stewards, but realistically they didn't have the capital to become dominant in AI by 2025 even if they had started immediately.

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GP is using right as in “correct”, not directionality.

No, I don't think they are. If you are facing a wall-plate with two power sockets on it side by side and you are telling someone to plug something in, which one would be "the right socket", and which would be "the left socket"? If above the wall-plate is a photo of a person and you are someone to draw a tattoo on the photo, which is "the right arm" and which is "the left arm"? Same wording, different expectation.

Power plugs are not people.

ETA: and if I were telling someone which socket to plug something into, it would absolutely be from the prospective of the person doing the plugging, not from inside the wall.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

Maybe the team should push hard before releasing the product instead of after to make it work.

Imagining the counterfactual (“typical, the most polished part of this service is the payment screen!”), it seems hard to win here.

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Maybe the team should push hard before releasing the product instead of after to make it work.

That’s a pretty uncharitable take. Given the scale of their recent launches and amount of compute to make them work, it seems incredibly smooth. Edge cases always arise, and all the company/teams can really do is be responsive - which is exactly why I see happening.

Why should the scale of their recent launches be a given? Who is requiring this release schedule?
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