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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by patates »

dobong wrote: post #41

I don't want this feature. I have LaTeX documents on my computer containing my personal thoughts. Some of them I want to keep to myself. And some of them contain my own ideas that I find embarrassing. I don't want to hand those documents over to Microsoft servers, nor do I want them used for AI training. I want them to know that these deeply personal thoughts are mine.

> I want them to know that these deeply personal thoughts are mine

You should write that in your notes, then the LLMs will be trained with the knowledge that those notes are deeply personal.

I'm sorry for the sarcasm, and I would (and do!) fight for your (all of our) rights, really. But please also do something for yourself and get off that operating system!

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by z500 »

iamtedd wrote: post #342
Springtime wrote: post #220

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And this W11 version of Notepad takes longer to open than Sublime Text and about equal to Firefox. On NVMe. It used to be instant , which is something you really notice the difference with when it changes.

The fucking start menu used to be an actual windows component that opened instantaneously. It's a web app now, sometimes taking seconds to open. I also noticed a lot of the time windows just ignores me double clicking on things in file explorer, leaving me to sit there wondering if I have to do it again.

On my 5 year old work laptop it was so bad it was nearly unusable. I found that disabling the shell extensions they used to implement the new file explorer UI helped a lot with that.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by sabas_ge »

0x000xca0xfe wrote: post #441
monegator wrote: post #411

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Yes. The two applications i miss on my linux boxes are notepad++ (though Kate is a good substitute) and GitExtensions

Notepad++ works pretty well with Wine, too.

https://github.com/dail8859/NotepadNext for a reimplementation

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by bayindirh »

jpalawaga wrote: post #449
bayindirh wrote: post #402

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Ubuntu's stable builds do not upgrade kernel and its close vicinity every week, AFAIK. I have a couple of servers with unattended updates enabled, and they do not greet me with "System Reboot Required" banner every week, and if that's required, the server is back with all services running OTOH, I upgraded my parents' PC yesterday, after three months of downtime. It really took at least two hours and four reboots. The…

Weird. My windows PC updates like your Linux machine. How often do update vs your parents? Maybe they had some larger “half” releases pending (I.e. closer to a major macOS release, which also take time)

The machine is on standby all the time. So it updates whenever it wants. In this occasion the machine was turned off for a couple of months, but the updates were not the "half release" updates. The list was .NET runtime, intel graphics drivers, some dynamic update support and the like. I was watching the machine all the time.

Funnily, dynamic updates support installation failed after all the kicking and screaming, and I didn't try. Maybe I'll look into it later.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by gamesbrainiac »

I really just don't want this. I've been a Windows user for many years, and I'd be fine if everything still looked like Windows 10 with just security updates. I don't want more features. At all. Why can't they do what MacOS does? Add nothing new, and just change up the look every now and then?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by Libidinalecon »

isodev wrote: post #74
krackers wrote: post #63

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I think it's hilariously tone deaf that travel booking and shopping are the two examples of "agentic" AI that keep popping up.

The main reason I shop online is the joy of hitting that Buy button every now and then for something I want. I don’t want some dumb bot doing that for me (and getting the wrong thing 2/3 of the times) The real chore is having to go to the store to get groceries, doing laundry, pairing socks etc … but solving any of that would require more than just bullshit LLM capabilities.

Groceries are hysterical to me. The ultimate first world problem.

It is just too much to go to the store, put what you want to eat in the cart, pay and walk out.

It stresses me out too much and takes time away from wasting time on my phone.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by cosmosgenius »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #418
cosmosgenius wrote: post #345

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AGI might be possible with more Param+Data scaling for LLM. It is not completely within the realm of impossible given that there is no proof yet of "limits" of LLM. Current limitation is definitely on the hardware side.

This is what I'm talking about. The correct tech would enable the strands of information in a vector to "see" each other and "talk" to each other without any intervention. This isn't the same as using a shovel to bash someone's head in. AGI would need tech that finds a previously undocumented solution to a problem by relating many things together, making a hypothesis, testing it, proving it, then acting on it. LLM te…

LMAO! That Bruce Almighty reference had me rolling. Good one.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by bayindirh »

jpalawaga wrote: post #445
bayindirh wrote: post #238

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Yes. Since 199x. macOS does the same thing. When I actually sleep, when my laptop's lid is closed. I wake up. My Mac wants a password instead of a fingerprint. It says it has updated the OS when I was snoring. What's the difference? Every app, every window, everything is the way I left before closing the lid. My computer is updated, rebooted and ready for the day. Like nothing happened. Linux is the same deal. If the…

My experience with Mac is iterm prevents Mac from shutting down so instead some days I wake up and everything on my machine has been closed and the update hasn’t been performed. Lovely.

I don't use iTerm, and close everything that I don't use for the night, which is a habit I have since the beginning of time.

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Post by internet2000 »

gamesbrainiac wrote: post #455

I really just don't want this. I've been a Windows user for many years, and I'd be fine if everything still looked like Windows 10 with just security updates. I don't want more features. At all. Why can't they do what MacOS does? Add nothing new, and just change up the look every now and then?

Apple adds new things. They're just good things instead of this.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by MYEUHD »

snarfy wrote: post #416
ChicagoDave wrote: post #127

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

It reminds me of the Xbox One release. They basically had the market with the earlier release compared to Sony's PS4, but then pushed the thing as a media/entertainment glorified roku box not gaming console. They didn't care what you want only what they wanted to sell you, and they were pushing NFL deals not gaming. Nobody wants this Copilot everywhere, but they sure are pushing it anyway. It's like they completely f…

> They basically had the market with the earlier release compared to Sony's PS4

The Xbox One and PS4 were both released in November 2013.

If anything, it was the PS4 that was released a week earlier than the Xbox One.

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