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Redmond, WA, turns off Flock Safety cameras after ICE arrests
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Because American citizens and documented immigrants never commit crimes? Nonsense.
> Nonsense
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> your silly hypothetical too. The stats for Southwest Land Border Encounters are available at https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-enc... and the HN guidelines are available at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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But if they hadn't been flouted, the US would be a dirt farm specializing in the farming and production of dirt. Hacker news wouldn't even exist.
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Redactions are necessary to protect innocent members of the public. Going through all the footage from every officer every single day to perform these redactions would require a huge amount of manpower. That may change with new technology, but until it can be automated reliably, the WA legislature got this right. With shit like traffic cameras, I don't think redactions are necessary, although it would be nice if all…
I think the point is that if the footage is unsafe to release publicly, then it is also unsafe to give cops access without a warrant.
So cops need a warrant to even be present at a crime scene to ask the witness / victim what happened? Obviously not. And since not, why would they need a warrant to record their conversation with the witness / victim?
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I don't see in any way how my comment was flamebait.
It's a political discussion, either allow it fully or don't.
Leaving one sided statements up like the GP is not a discussion.
My response was a real retort to that belief that America wouldn't function without below minimal-wage exploitation of illegal aliens.
Referencing the morals of the same justification for slavery is a valid point.
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I think this is a case of, tools used to fight one type of crime are being used to fight another type of crime that disrupting the community. Kind of an unforeseen consequences situation.
They are being used to perform another kind of crime. Much of ICE behaviour this past year has been highly criminal. Redmond is under no obligation to assist them.
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i will never tire of the irony of a man who owned humans being lauded as a freedom fighter.
Whatever you're doing at the moment, I'll bet somebody 200 years from now will condemn it. It might not even take that long, at the rate we're progressing.
i can confidently say that i don't personally engage with any activities that constitute extreme deprivation of another individual's liberties while simultaneously advocating for those liberties, which is what i was specifically talking about. please, if you must, accuse me of something concrete.
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i will never tire of the irony of a man who owned humans being lauded as a freedom fighter.
Benjamin Franklin became an abolitionist.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#Slavery
what that wikipedia article doesn't mention is that Franklin continued to own people for almost his entire adult life, while paying lip service to abolition.