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He’s in the UK.
DEI hiring exists in the UK. This is not something exclusive to America.
Were you just going by his name when deciding he was a DEI hire?
Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break
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Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break
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Job markets are bad for everyone though
Job markets are pretty good for electricians building data centers. https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/pfbid02UTHoop...
>> company in America is struggling to hire technicians, and the problem - (in spite of what you'll likely read in the comments,) has nothing to do with the pay, the benefits, or the working conditions.
When CEO says it has nothing to do with the pay - it is exactly the reason why there are shortages of the talent.
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I have more than my fair share of complaints about Trump, but I did like the idea of charging $100,000 per year for every H1B visa. It would have ultimately helped American workers by giving them more negotiating power and higher salaries. So, naturally, Trump was talked out of doing it yearly and it looks like it's legally questionable whether it will stand-up at all. It appears things worked out in a way that benef…
No, companies were already having trouble getting prospective staff H1Bs. Making them more expensive just increases the incentive to move the job offshore. Once the offshore team is large enough, companies stop hiring in the USA.
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250 applications per junior position shows how rough the market is for new grads
If you think that’s bad, about 15 years ago I asked a recruiter from Rolls Royce how competitive their grad scheme was and it had over 20000 applications per year at the time.
With 250+ applications per job, does your company carry the prestige of Rolls Royce? Everything you are saying affirms the point OP is making.
Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break
#455To the people at the top, the job market is a statistic. They can't feel empathy on an issue they're so disconnected from, so they just think it's not their problem, or there isn't much they can do about it. Technological innovation is supposed to mean society can produce more with less work, so in theory everyone's lives could end up better off over time where we could all work less and get more, but in practice, I…
> so in theory everyone's lives could end up better off over time they did. The innovation that happened in the past 100 years meant that almost everyone (in the west at least, and in a lot of developing nations too) has the access to transport, clean water, electricity, information/communications etc. And because everyone has it, people such as yourself see it as a baseline, and forget that it is benefits being rece…
People don't care whether they're better off than people 100 years ago.
They do care whether their life is better than their parents' generation, and on that score, they are by most measures worse off.
Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
250 applications per junior position shows how rough the market is for new grads
If you think that’s bad, about 15 years ago I asked a recruiter from Rolls Royce how competitive their grad scheme was and it had over 20000 applications per year at the time.
how many new positions did they open annually?
20000 / 250 would be only 80 positions a year; doesn't seem like a lot for a company like RR
If they opened 200 new positions a year, that's only 100 applications per position
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Where the "panic" part starts to set in is that the people who are educated in the discipline aren't going anywhere. Suppose the trend does eventually reverse. In 5 years you will still be competing with the people who graduated alongside you today, most people who graduated over the last few years, and people who will graduate in 2030. The supply side will continue overflowing with candidates, so anyone who graduate…
I spent a long time in grad school and I’m totally running into this.
Did you manage to get out of it? Do you have any advice? I just finished my undergrad recently, and I'm scared of aging out of the relevance of my degree if I don't manage to secure a "real" job in a year or two. At that point, my options will be to continue desperately trying to get into absolutely anything in tech, or get some other job while pivoting from CS entirely.
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My guess is I'll end up in government or an NGO but I'm probably going to do a PhD before that so getting a real job is at least 5 years away. The previous grad students for my advisor are all employed with decent jobs so I'm not worried, especially since I have a pretty unique skill set for the field and strong stats fundamentals. Edit: engineers are always skeptical of my career change but my friends actually in th…
The previous grad students came out in a different economic context. Things have changed remarkably for the sciences in just this year alone. Grad schools have actually rescinded offers because they no longer have funding for first years and faculty don’t have funding for taking on students. No one has seen anything like this before.
> No one has seen anything like this before.
Seems to be kind of a running theme of the last few years, isn't it? I know some of these major upsets and changes to the way things are done have always been there in some ways, but it feels like there were never quite as many alarm bells ringing of unrelated existing systems catastrophically failing.
Everyone in my age group (early-mid 20s) is sure having a fun time right now.
Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break
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Im not American so can't comment on the US situation. However, where I live, CS grads are facing the same problem. However, switching to trades is not an option - the salaries of trade workers are not enough to pay for housing. I've been working for 5 solid years now at my current company, Im still the youngest hire. While my company continues to compensate me really well, I think that the new grad situation is terri…
The wages for skilled trades are enough to pay for housing outside of HCOL areas like New York City and the SF Bay Area. People may need to move to restart their careers. There is high demand for electricians in Plano, TX. I understand that making that kind of move is difficult and highly disruptive but at some point workers have to face reality. Regardless of whether the root cause is AI or offshoring or higher inte…
If i have two kids to support, how am i going to afford a) cost of relocating to LCOL b) cost of supporting family on lower wage c) while going through a multi year retraining program and d) paying for the training?
Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break
#460Great article, well written. I'd certainly consider interviewing this guy - if I was hiring. Based on the other comments it's worth noting a few things: 1. Ahmed seems to be in the UK, not the USA. H1Bs don't affect him. This isn't obvious because he talks about the USA. However, the mass immigration into the UK might have impacted him by saturating the low skill markets such that everyone else has to fight over the…
> Great article, well written. >> The question is no longer whether a model can cover the job that was going to exist anyway. The question is whether a human can justify their presence next to a stack of models. >> The central question for future labour markets is not whether you are clever or diligent in some absolute sense. It is whether what you do is ordinary enough for a model to learn or strange enough to fall…
> Well written by GPT?
My first thought while reading the article was relief that I'm finally reading something not written by ChatGPT. As someone who is super tired of reading AI slop these days, this was not it. (IMHO). And even if it was, it was definitely not annoying to me like the default setting of ChatGPT i.e. the "It's just not X. It's XXX!" format. I liked the cadence, the only thing I did not like was the verbosity. Ultimately there is going to be a pattern or a so called "voice" even in human writing. So as long as it's got good taste, whatever.