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Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by boomlinde » Thu, Nov 27, 2025, 8:24 AM UTC

simongray wrote: post #449

boomlinde wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one in charge of implementing this law is going to care whether some Mastodon server implements a special auth solution for Danish users or not, they are going to care that Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, etc. do so. And if that little Mastodon server ends up hosting some content that is embarrassing or offensive to the Danish authorities, laws like this will surely not be used to retaliate... Arbitrarily and selec…

Why do you think it's going to be arbitrary? The law will obviously be framed in such a way as to hit the targets it is supposed to hit, avoid collateral damage. It's not like complete amateurs are writing our laws.

That it's going to be arbitrary is your own assessment. You said that "No one in charge of implementing this law is going to care whether some Mastodon server implements a special auth solution for Danish users or not, they are going to care that Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, etc. do so."

I responded by explaining why that wouldn't be a good thing.

Have you changed your mind on that point or are you simply not keeping track of your argument? Either way there can't be an honest discussion whether you have the memory of a goldfish or are deliberately ignoring what you've said.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by simongray » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 11:10 AM UTC

boomlinde wrote: post #451

simongray wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think it's going to be arbitrary? The law will obviously be framed in such a way as to hit the targets it is supposed to hit, avoid collateral damage. It's not like complete amateurs are writing our laws.

That it's going to be arbitrary is your own assessment. You said that "No one in charge of implementing this law is going to care whether some Mastodon server implements a special auth solution for Danish users or not, they are going to care that Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, etc. do so." I responded by explaining why that wouldn't be a good thing. Have you changed your mind on that point or are you simply not keeping…

I am talking about the purpose of the law and the way it is written. It's not hard to create a law that only targets the bigger services, just make it apply to entities with a daily user count above N. A law isn't a headline on Hacker News, it's a carefully written document.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

#453

Post by boomlinde » Fri, Dec 05, 2025, 7:37 PM UTC

simongray wrote: post #452

boomlinde wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That it's going to be arbitrary is your own assessment. You said that "No one in charge of implementing this law is going to care whether some Mastodon server implements a special auth solution for Danish users or not, they are going to care that Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, etc. do so." I responded by explaining why that wouldn't be a good thing. Have you changed your mind on that point or are you simply not keeping…

I am talking about the purpose of the law and the way it is written. It's not hard to create a law that only targets the bigger services, just make it apply to entities with a daily user count above N. A law isn't a headline on Hacker News, it's a carefully written document.

> I am talking about the purpose of the law and the way it is written. It's not hard to create a law that only targets the bigger services, just make it apply to entities with a daily user count above N.

Why would they, though, if "no one in charge of implementing this law is going to care whether some Mastodon server implements a special auth solution for Danish users or not"? The EU CSAR proposal (which Denmark seem very much on board with) doesn't make such exceptions, so why should this law?

> A law isn't a headline on Hacker News, it's a carefully written document.

This is a non sequitur, and also pure speculation.