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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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> because they are trained on multilingual data But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data.

"But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data." ok what are you implying on this

Sidesteps potential legal issues probably

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Is English a legacy official language then from the time the UK was a member (I‘m guessing Ireland nominated Irish instead of English). Aside it feels very un-EU to push this limitation, as I was under the assumption that EU was all about celebrating (European) diversity.

Still an official language, thankfully. Officially, because of Cyprus.

Why Cyprus? Their official languages are Greek and Turkish.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Well, this was 4 days ago, Spain in talks with Germany regarding the addition of official languages: https://www.politico.eu/article/catalan-basque-galician-boos...

If you can't find a common language within your own country, you shouldn't get to be one country.

Go back and tell the founding fathers of america that. Not everyone in america was english speakers.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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My German teacher always claimed that Swiss German and German German (Hochdeutsch) were so different that she needed subtitles to understand it, and she didn't understand why they weren't considered separate languages.

Try dutch, it is combination of German and English!

This, but with something oddly french about it, at least in the way it sounds.

As a native french speaker, no other language gives me that "why don't I understand what they say... oh, right, that's not my language!" feeling. Something with frequencies used, I suppose, but it always puzzles me.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Yep, VCs don't exist here. Plus the absurd starting costs, it's like what, 20k to set up a GmbH?

Not needed in the beginning. You can start an UG (mini GmbH) for 1 euro and then convert it into a proper GmbH later.

Technically yes, but it costs thousands per year for upkeep and again thousands plus 1-2 years of time to shut it down again.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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By funding AI slop, you're funding AI slop, not AI research, or, quote, "drive adoption of AI across strategic and public sectors including healthcare, pharmaceuticals, energy, mobility, manufacturing, construction, agri-food, defence, communications and culture"

False, research works on grasping at the possible but not quite knowing how. Slop has stumbled into accidental success on a number of occasions.

> research works on grasping at the possible but not quite knowing how

If these are public money, you want to reduce the blind grasping

> Slop has stumbled into accidental success on a number of occasions.

So, show me these occasions where AI slop led to "transformative potential by driving adoption of AI across strategic and public sectors including healthcare, pharmaceuticals, energy, mobility, manufacturing, construction, agri-food, defence, communications and culture."

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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All the models from all the big providers (even the Chinese models!) support all of these languages already. The big win for accessibility has already been won...3 years ago.

>All the models from all the big providers (even the Chinese models!) support all of these languages already.

As a speaker of one of those languages...no, they definitely don't. You can get some words out, but it's not necessarily anything sensible

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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It's true that they are appointed. However, they're appointed by the EU Council (the heads of state, most of them elected, some appointed by a national parliament), and approved by the (elected) European Parliament. At the cost of some transparency, this does make it possible to select a bit more for management skills instead of just campaigning skills.

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If Elon was explicitly affirmed by a majority of congres, then that would have been similar, yes.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I was thinking the same, why are so many superior models coming from only countries like US and China. And why are European countries not in the list other than France with Mistral. Why are so few companies in India, Japan, South Korea even close to a promising new model like what Chinese companies did ?

As a European citizen I think it boils down to access to the capital. EU/EEA is not a country and the market is sort of fragmented. The big players are UK, France, Germany, everyone else does not have the same access to money as say in the US. Folks want to do it but there is a glass ceiling. Hence you have these collabs among large institutions to tap into funds such as from Horizon which are academic in nature and…

The fun part is that people whining about not being able to raise common capital and operate across whole EU due to regulation tend to also be the most rabid opposers of any kind of common regulation that would bring whole EU into alignment and make it a less fragmented market.

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post #119

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Not sure which Tunisians are claiming this but they'd definitely need a lot more than minimum effort. Maltese split off from Arabic around 1k years ago. The two languages sound pretty different, and are written with different alphabets.

Tunisian dialect must have split of at the same time, because it's as far from arabic as maltese is. most arabs don't understand our dialect (fortunately we also speak standard arabic which we learn at school). I read some research saying maltese/tunisian is a separate language called lingua franca

Nice seeing you around here =) been a while !
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